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Date:         Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:25:33 -0800
Reply-To:     Mike Miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike Miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: successful 2000 mile road trip
Comments: To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <71d9cdf90803170957i569477bdxcce33caecb1494ef@mail.gmail.com>
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Well his broke. If he owns one that's a hundred percent breakage rate. Pretty bad design I'd say!

Of course of my two vans I have no breakage so we're down to 33% breakage rate. Not 100% but still pretty bad.

Maybe we should do a group buy on the titanium/carbon fiber/synthetic diamond ones that Unca Joel will be manufacturing soon?

Mike

On 3/17/08 8:57 AM, "Jake de Villiers" <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> What do you mean 'prone to breaking'? Have you broken several? Seen a > bunch of broken ones? > > My vans are each well over 200,000 miles, one of them's been to Alaska 6 > times, and the shifter's are intact. Go easy on the projecting. > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu> wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> I did not remember that -- here I thought I was being pretty clever! >> Perhaps your suggestion was subliminally effective. >> >> Actually it's a pretty obvious "patch up" solution if you think about it >> for a few minutes. >> >> I'll get a stronger bolt, thread that in and then weld it WITH the bolt >> in place. >> >> Anyone know why these are prone to breaking? Is it just metal fatigue, >> or were they designed to snap off for safety in an accident? >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1991 Vanagon GL >> >> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:52:16 -0400, "Mike" <mbucchino@charter.net> said: >>> Hi Allan, >>> I'm the guy that originally suggested the tapping and threading as a >>> good fix; I'm glad you were able to use it to get you home! >>> A threaded rod is about Grade 5, it's not strong enough to last in any >>> automotive application. You need to use a Grade 8 (or higher) bolt with >>> threaded area that's long enough to do the job. Just buy an >>> automotive-grade bolt of the same thread that you've already tapped it >>> for, cutting off the head and unthreaded portion. You could also have >> it >>> 'properly' welded and ground flush again, after threading it back >>> together for a permanent repair. Or, you might just be able to buy a >> complete >>> shifter from a parts yard or a member of this list. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Mike B. >> > > > > -- > Jake > 1984 Vanagon GL > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > Crescent Beach, BC > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27


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