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Date:         Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:40:53 -0400
Reply-To:     pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress
              (welding pics)
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <064701c88a10$f2932ae0$6401a8c0@DJZL7KF1>
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The circuit breaker advice is probably good, but there is a pretty decent factor of safety built into the wire gauge.

I seriously doubt a fire will result from bumping the breaker up by 10 amps.

That being said, I certainly don't recommend doing this if for no other reason than repercussion from the litigious society which we live.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Shazam Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:31 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress (welding pics)

Oh please. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm doing. I'm right her by the wires 24/7 anyway. But thank you for your concern. And it's not in some old wooden house either. Sometimes I put things in like that just to see if anyone is paying attention......maybe I do that.

Scott

-----Original Message----- From: Mike Elliott [mailto:camping.elliott@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:21 PM To: Scott Daniel - Shazam Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: NVC: Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress (welding pics)

This is now NVC, but I gotta say.

You replaced a 20A household breaker with a 30A? Well, if you suddenly smell wood smoke while you're welding, just know that if the blaze was started by that circuit overheating, your home's fire insurance is worthless.

If you already know this, then forge ahead! Have at it! But forewarned is forearmed.

-- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano KG6RCR

On 3/19/2008 2:07 PM Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:

> Sounds all good. > I have a 20 amp circuit that would trip the same way -get that 300 or 500 > watt light on it, and my wire feed welder and it would trip pretty easily. > > I'd never thought this, but it makes sense - a guy pointed out to me that > once a circuit breaker has tripped many times, it's weaker and will trip > more easily than it should. I think I just replaced my old 20 amp circuit > breaker with a 30. > You're getting' it ........be firin' that mutha up soon ! > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:58 PM > To: Scott Daniel - Shazam > Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > Subject: Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress (welding > pics) > > Good pointers. > > No extension cord. All 12/2 from a 20 amp dedicated breaker. (though I > have "snuck" a fan on there) Only tripped it once because I had a 300 > watt work lamp on the circuit. It has been banned from this circuit! > > I'll have to research wire that's best for the gases I'm running. For > now, I'm getting that sizzling sound. Most of the time --- ;^) > > Neat about wire lube. This is a decent (Hobart) welder, so wire feed > system is good. No birds nests or binding. I'm careful about how I > position the cable to gun. > > Neil. > > On 3/19/08, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >> Here's another tip - make sure the welder is plugged directly into the > wall >> socket and not on a long extension cord. >> >> I went from argon/CO2 to a slightly different gas with ........helium ( ? > ) >> in it maybe. Might have helped a tiny bit. >> >> Oh, if you have any wire feeding issues - I got these little felt pads > that >> fit over the wire in the machine before the wire t enters the tube and >> gun......and you put drops of the correct lube on it, helps the wire > slide >> consistently in the tube and gun. >> Also ......the sound - when it's welding right .......it's a nice sharp >> sizzle. >> Scott >> www.turbovans.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of >> neil N >> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:28 AM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> >> Subject: Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress > (welding >> pics) >> >> >> 25/75 Argon/CO2. >> >> Why? >> >> Type of wire/gas useage? >> >> I'm using OPT S6 .030 solid wire. >> >> --- :^) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Neil. >> >> On 3/19/08, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Neil, >> > What gas or gas mixture are you using? >> > >> > Larry A. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:30 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > No disrespect intended --- :^) >> > > >> > > Getting proper penetration seems to be the biggest factor in welding. >> > > That I can see anyways. >> > > >> > > That and test fitting a piece before making final welds..... >> > > >> > > (yes that was me who made part of my driver side support for the >> > > passenger side w/o test fitting it!) >> > > >> > > D-oh! >> > > >> > > Neil. >> > > >> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:10:53 -0700, "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> >> said: >> > > > >> > > > > Ah yes. The shifter! >> > > > >> > > > I only ground that weld because it was preventing the spring from >> > > > compressing and blocking the proper placement of the retaining > collar. >> > > > I didn't realize that the weld was all on the surface and evidently >> had >> > > > not penetrated at all. >> > > > >> > > > Allan >> > > > -- >> > > > 1991 Vanagon GL >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" >> > > >> > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >> > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> > > >> > >> -- >> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" >> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: > 3/19/2008 >> 9:54 AM >> >> >> > >

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