Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:14:11 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: exhaust gasket question 2.1
In-Reply-To: <19a901c88ebe$17736cb0$0a00a8c0@OWNERMIKE>
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I will check out what Bugformance has. Bugformance is a very old
bug parts store that I have shopped for 20 years. They have Vanagon
common parts too. It is only a few miles from me.
David
--- Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:
> What about that 'new' exhaust gasket material sold at the FLAPS nowadays;
> dead-soft aluminum? That should also be a good, reuseable material.
>
> Mike B.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Kao" <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: exhaust gasket question 2.1
>
>
> > Well, Yahoo did it again. I had to look into the list archive to see many
> > replies there but not in my inbox. This one was directly from you and was
> > in
> > my inbox.
> >
> > Scott, I think Bugformance in San Jose probably has exhaust gaskets for
> > Vanagons. If my 30k mile old gaskets are not reusable I will call
> > Bugformance.
> > Copper sheet may be not soft enough as a material for exhaust gaskets
> > unless
> > the exhaust flange is perfectly parallel to the joint surface on the head.
> > So I will toss that idea now.
> >
> > BTW, my 84 engine is not in a too bad shape. I could still speed it up to
> > 80
> > MPH on flat highway. But I know the compression is uneven and one of the
> > valve
> > tip is kind of smashed a bit. My tranny broke last winter. I decide to
> > drop
> > the engine first which makes it a lot easier to replace the tranny. I will
> > take the opportunity to rebuild the engine. I hope it will get another 80K
> > or more miles before I have to drop it again. If I don't do anything to it
> > now
> > I probably will need to do it within two years or even sooner. It's fun
> > time
> > again. Any suggestions welcome. I may begin to throw questions to the list
> > as soon as the work is started.
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ah ha, harassing the list before you even know the facts !!
> >> Happens all the time, lol.
> >>
> >> I buy german aftermarket exh. Port gaskets 20 at a time, like in bulk.
> >> There is absolutely nothing wrong with them. I would almost never
> >> re-use
> >> one however. But flange flatness and being parallel to the head surface
> >> is
> >> important.
> >> Scott
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> >> Of
> >> David Kao
> >> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:50 PM
> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> Subject: Re: exhaust gasket question 2.1
> >>
> >> My 84 engine was resealed (head gaskets all that came within the gasket
> >> set) 30k miles ago. I can reuse the exhaust gaskets but with the new ones
> >> I will get the nice exhaust sound like a new Vanagon. If copper gasket is
> >> a bad idea I think the other answer is to get OEM. I hate to go to any
> >> dealer. I think the ones come within the gasket set are not very good,
> >> although they do work fine. Copper is fairly soft so making a set of
> >> exhaust
> >> gaskets using copper is not that hard. Just need to hear from people if
> >> it
> >> is actually not a good idea. Maybe I don't need to replace them at all.
> >> I will soon find out when the engine is dropped.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Maybe you need to square and flatten your exhaust flanges. The stock
> >> > gaskets last a long time for me - 8 years or more.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:46 PM, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Is it a good/bad idea to make your own exhaust gasket using sheet
> >> > > copper
> >> > > available from hardware store? Has anyone tried this? I will soon
> >> > > begin
> >> > > to dismantle my 84's engine and replace the tranny at the same time.
> >> > > The engine will receive a set of new Cofap and a pair of used heads.
> >> > > I can anticipate need of a set of new exhaust gaskets. The gaskets
> >> > > seem
> >> > > to crap out quickly and not cheap. I am seeking an alternative.
> >> > >
> >> > > David
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --- Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Metal won't get stuck to what it's clamped against, but composite
> >> may.
> >> > > > Which part is easier to remove and scrape a baked-on gasket off of?
> >> I'd
> >> > > put
> >> > > > metal towards the head, for that reason alone............
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mike B.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
> >> > > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:18 PM
> >> > > > Subject: Re: exhaust gasket question 2.1
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks, all, as usual. Metal to the head it will be.
> >> > > > > Jim
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Jake de Villiers <
> >> > > > > crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> I've always put the metal side to the source of the heat
> >> > > > >> whatever
> >> the
> >> > > > >> make
> >> > > > >> of engine but I remember a post not too long ago that espoused
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> opposite.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> In 35 years of hot rodding etc I've never had a problem when
> >> putting
> >> > > the
> >> > > > >> metal side to the exhaust port. :)
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Jim Felder
> >> > > > >> <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > My first question is why does a Vanagon full gasket set come
> >> > > > >> > with
> >> > > only
> >> > > > >> > two
> >> > > > >> > head-to-pipe gaskets when it requires four?
> >> > > > >> > My real question is which side goes toward the head, the
> >> composite
> >> > > side
> >> > > > >> > or
> >> > > > >> > the metal side?
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Obviously I'm talking about the kind that's thin steel bonded
> >> > > > >> > or
> >> > > > >> > crimped
> >> > > > >> > to
> >> > > > >> > a composite material.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Thanks,
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Jim
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> --
> >> > > > >> Jake
> >> > > > >> 1984 Vanagon GL
> >> > > > >> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> >> > > > >> Crescent Beach, BC
> >> > > > >> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> >> > > > >> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > --
> >> > Jake
> >> > 1984 Vanagon GL
> >> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> >> > Crescent Beach, BC
> >> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> >> > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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