Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:48:15 -0400
Reply-To: Greg Potts <greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
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From: Greg Potts <greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
Subject: Re: AW in Vancouver Back on CL..... for more money!
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Hi Craig,
Thing is, some vanagons ARE worth as much as restored splitties. Have a
look at what GoWesty is selling, or ask Benny Boy how much he wants for
his Tornado Red westy. You can find a lot of splitwindow buses in that
price range, and probably pick up a decent baywindow with the change
left over. People see those prices and then they think that their rusted
hulk is a gold mine.
When I see a stuation like that I suggest the seller figure out what a
comparable vehicle would cost in good running condition and then figure
out what the cost would be to get the unit they are selling into that
condition. Subtract the latter number from the former, and you have ta
fair and reasonable price. If it turns out to be a negative number, then
it's a parts car, and you price it out according to the value of the
parts minus the value of the labour to harvest them.
But some people will refuse to play ball. They are either unmotivated
sellers or they have an unrealistic picture of the value of their
product in the current marketplace.
Or else they are sharks looking for dumber prey to come along and take
the bait. It's a cheap way to pass the time, and every so often they get
lucky.
Happy Trails,
Greg Potts
1973/74/79 Westfakia "Bob the Tomato"
www.busesofthecorn.com
www.pottsfamily.ca
craig cowan wrote:
> I recently went to go investigate a "GOOD DEAL" on an '84 sunroof van. It
> was an automatic, which was not my cup of tea, but based on the description
> it should have been a gem for $800! I even called the guy and talked to him,
> he said it ran when he parked it, and i asked about the body and if it had
> seam rust his response was "NO. Only 'minor surface rust'" which to me means
> the bumpers are rusty.....or something like that. Surface rust BEHIND the
> bumper....
> Well we got a gang together and drove out on a frigid morning to investigate
> the bounty. Boy were we in for a suprise....
> It looked almost as if someone had sanded all the paint down so that nothing
> had any luster, and in some panels they'd sanded to bare metal, resulting in
> MAJOR surface rust.....like a whole panel.
> The sunroof was open (probably rusted open), and while the guy assured us
> that it "ran in october", he didn't specify what year.....
> The engine was missing components (Exhaust components), major oxidation on
> everything.....four flat tires....
>
> And he STILL wanted $800 for it. Would not budge. It really wasn't even
> worth that in parts.....
> So there is an uneducated group of people in this world that think 15-20
> year old vanagons fetch 23 window 40-50 year old Split window prices. They
> may someday, but thats not today, and probably not tommorow.
>
> -Craig
> '85Gl
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:20 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now *that's* ridiculous!
>>
>> And he wouldn't take $500?
>>
>> I'd say that was too much! --- ;^)
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:
>>> I just went to look at a van that the guy wanted $2000 for, but it
>> needed
>>> to be towed, was rusty, full of mice, used to store junk, wouldn't
>> start,
>>> had 2 flats, 180K miles, broken sliding window with glass still
>> scattered
>>> inside, couldn't find the title, head leaks, parts missing, etc.
>>>
>>> He said the parts on it were worth more than he was asking. I offered
>> him
>>> $500. He didn't like that. Good luck, pal.......
>>>
>>> Mike B.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rob" <becida@COMCAST.NET>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: AW in Vancouver Back on CL..... for more money!
>>>
>>>
>>> >I often wonder about the asking prices, this guy is (now) asking $3k
>>> > for something you have to hire a tow truck to take away.
>>> > If I have to get a tow truck it has to be damn special, a really
>>> > great buy or something I already own and need to get home (because
>>> > maybe the #3 rod went thru the case or the it ran dry and cooked
>>> > itself), or it doesn't run, hasn't sold and has to get towed to the
>>> > wrecking yard.
>>> > Maybe if he waits long enough someone will come along who thinks it's
>>> > damn special...
>>> >
>>> > Rob
>>> > becida@comcast.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At 3/26/2008 09:20 AM, neil N wrote:
>>> >>Quite likely he's tired of low balls and just wants to "sort through
>>> >>the chaff". i.e. get serious people interested. I get what you're
>>> >>saying. Or he saw more interest than anticipated and wanted to make
>>> >>the best of it.
>>> >>
>>> >>I wish him well either way, but was curious to see the price jump.
>>> >>
>>> >>Neil.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Christopher Gronski
>>> >><gronski@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > He'll probably still take $2000, I remember selling my motorcycle
>> a few
>>> >> > years back and getting low balled all the time, he's probably
>> tired of
>>> >> > getting offered a grand for it.
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