Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:56:33 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: insulating against road noise
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I think that page was written before the advent of foil/bubble/bubble/foil
insulation which gives the R value of fibreglass without the moisture
retention.
You can use it as its own vapour barrier.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:45 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey that's a great set of pages. Pretty intense process. Interesting
> to see that they use fiberglass (though with a layer of poly over FG).
>
> Great info.
>
> Thanks Jake
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Jake de Villiers
> <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Firstly, I am in agreement with Ken on the inadvisability of using any
> > insulation that has moisture-retaining capabilities.
> >
> > The Iceguard is what I have in my two front doors, in the battery boxes
> and
> > under the rear seats. It works great and I look forward to when I have
> time
> > to do the slider, the hatch and the cab roof, let alone the rear sides.
> :)
> >
> > I think this is the link you're looking for:
> > http://www.shagadelic.org/VW/info/gmbulley-soundproof/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Woody Halsey <WHalsey@sya.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yesterday Ken Wilford recommended against using recycled cotton fiber
> > > home insulation bats to soundproof to my 83.5 V'gon. He warned that
> the
> > > insulation could absorb moisture that would be transferred to the
> > > fiberboard panels and lead to warping. That all makes sense (and I
> > > always values Ken's wise advice); but I would be curious to know if
> > > anyone has tried that solution and kept moisture from getting to the
> > > panels by renewing/replacing the plastic sheets that were
> (theoretically
> > > anyway - I don't think I ever saw them on mine) originally glued to
> the
> > > walls of the vehicle, behind the clip on panels. Is there also a risk
> of
> > > moisture getting trapped in the insulation that would then lead to
> > > rusting of the body itself, from the inside out?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken also informed me that rubberized "ice and water shield" used on
> > > roofs is essentially the same product as the adhesive, rubber
> > > soundproofing material sold on the internet. I have plenty of that
> lying
> > > around after a roofing project on my house, and wonder if anyone has
> had
> > > good luck installing it. How well does it stick? Do you have to warm
> it
> > > up before applying? Does it really absorb road noise? Has anyone
> tried
> > > applying more than one layer?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am researching the archives; but any current thoughts would be much
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, does anyone have a link to Matthew Bulley's treatise on the
> > > subject.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Finally, is there any difference between the white "Kool Patch" and
> the
> > > black?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Woody
> > >
> > > 83.5 V'gon
> > >
> > > Haverhill, MA
> > >
> > > woodyhalsey@sya.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jake
> > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > Crescent Beach, BC
> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
>
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>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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