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Date:         Wed, 9 Apr 2008 22:21:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: '85 GL manual - Draining old coolant
Comments: To: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
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The metal pipes can be changed with most everything in place. The trick is to remove the heater hoses. Then you rotate and put the pipes into position.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of craig cowan Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:42 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: '85 GL manual - Draining old coolant

In order to fully replace the steel pipes, i believe you have to have the gas tank out, and the car jacked up REALLY high. I participated in the pulling of coolant pipes from an '85 parts van, and it was pretty tricky. It had me pretty convinced that there was no way i'd be replacing mine that way. I just cannot fathom how you would INSTALL the pipes (Ya obviously the opposite of how you took them out). With the transmission and engine in place, i could see it being tricky.

So.... I cut my pipes off with a sabre saw at different points, purchased some marine grade soft hose sections, took the "donor pipes" and cut them in their respective locations, and coupled it all together with a handful of stainless steel hose clamps. This should last me a few years, as the forward sections of my pipes have not a speck of rust on them. When it fails again, it's time for the stainless steel 2 piece pipes. It seems to me that the right pipe fails significantly faster than the left pipe. My right pipe was ready to burst (it did burst in removal), and of the 2 parts vans used to donate pipes, only 1 "good" right pipe was available. All the left pipes i've seen so far though, haven't been nearly as bad.

Therefore, the pipe sections i used to repair my rear sections, both came from "LEFT" pipes. It seems to fit fine, and i am somewhat perplexed therefore as to why they would bend the rear sections in a polarized fashion, right and left being different.

"There's always a gallon left in there......somewhere....."

-Craig '85GL Maybe running this weekend?

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Joseph Fortino <fortino1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Yes that works, also maybe jack the front of the van up a bit, park on a > slope helps. > its a mess get ready. ;) > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Collum <collum@VERIZON.NET> > >Sent: Apr 9, 2008 7:38 AM > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: '85 GL manual - Draining old coolant > > > >Jeff Lincoln wrote: > > > what is the best way to get all of the old coolant out > > > >Remove the pushrod tin. Right between the pushrod tubes, on each head, > >are drain plugs. While you have the tin off you "Might" consider using > >a hole saw to make access holes right below those plugs so you don't > >have to remove the tin in the future. > > > >With the radiator hoses removed, the radiator should drain. You can > >make sure by cracking the bleeder bolt (if stock) or removing it if it > >doesn't have the groove up the side of the threads. > > > >Flushing and back flushing the system helps to rid the old coolant, too. > > > >Mike > > > Have a nice Day :) >


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