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Date:         Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:23:24 -0400
Reply-To:     "Jack R." <jack007@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Jack R." <jack007@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: ventilators in front doors
In-Reply-To:  <B93CEC77BF22AC4BAC3153499966BC536258AA@sya01.SYA.local>
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Woody,

From a file I saved... not my words, but should answer you question...

BOTTOM LEVER: This is the rear passenger fresh air control lever. This lever operates a cable that moves flaps in the air distribution box under the dashboard that increases or decreases fresh airflow to the rear passenger area. Fresh air that enters the air distribution box is diverted to metal ducts under the dashboard which conduct air to the right and left front door jams. In the front left and right forward door jams there are rectangular gaskets that connect the doors to these ducts. There are still more ducts welded inside each front door through which air flows and exits out of the rear door jam, through a funny looking plastic oval grill thingy with a furry seal around it. You can see this when you open the door and look just under the door latch. Then the air flows up inside the body section behind the front doors, and then rearward into the fresh air ducts along roof in the rear passenger area. On camper models, the left steel duct under the dashboard is plugged so air can't flow through the left door. This is because, on campers, there are no air vents in the rear passenger area above the stove and frig galley. You will find the oval grill thingy missing on the left door. (see pic #1) I wish I had a dollar for every time a camper owner insisted on buying an oval furry vent thingy for the left door because it was "missing". IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MISSING!

Jack

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Woody Halsey Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:02 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: ventilators in front doors

Thanks, Jake. That does look pretty awesome. It turns out that the original pad is not that bad, after all; so I think I am not going to mess with it for now.

Here is another question: Where does the air that allegedly flows through the vents at the bottom corner of the from doors come from? I always thought those vents were somehow connected to the ventilation and heating system somehow; but now that I have the interior panels off finally (unbelievably easy when you know what to remove to reveal the one screw) I cannot figure out how they work at all. There is an air channel that runs through the door, so air gets to the back (and the rubber gasket that seals the passage from the door to the door post is readily visible) but the little slider vent and the trailing back corner of the door just seems to open randomly into the door cavity. Weird.

Back to applying "Peel and Seal," cracking open roll #5.

Woody

83.5 V'gon

Haverhill, MA

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From: Jake de Villiers [mailto:crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:35 PM To: Woody Halsey Subject: Re: insulating against road noise

Hey Woody, this stuff looks like it might work on your engine lid.

http://www.earsc.com/HOME/what'snew/index.asp?SID=3&news_id=42

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Woody Halsey <WHalsey@sya.org> wrote:

The "peel and Seal" flashing product I am using looks exactly like "Fat Mat." It cost $10 for 12.5 sq ft. I am hoping for the best.

Woody

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Mister Tom Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:24 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

Subject: Re: insulating against road noise

What kind of noise are we talking about here? I have used FatMat to cover the front floor, rear deck, inside front doors, slider and under the seats. Double thick in places. The cargo area has the original rubber mat plus a thick rug. New shocks, new Michelin LTX tires, etc. I have also coated inside the wheel wells pretty heavy.

My Syncro Westy is pretty heavy and on freshly-paved roads it's almost as quiet as a new car. But, if the asphalt has worn down to expose the aggregate, I get lots of what I call "tire roar".

I don't think the FatMat treatment has done much if anything to quiet that noise.

So, does anything *really* get rid of the noise created by rough pavement?

Tom Salicos '87 Syncro Westy EG-33

-- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" Crescent Beach, BC www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27


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