Date:         Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:07:33 -0700
Reply-To:     neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Jetta Power Supply relay questions (Vanagon conversion) PIC
              of wiring diagram.
Comments: To: Mark Drillock <drillock@earthlink.net>
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Good to know. That confirms my suspicions that 3/86 and 1/85 and 2
aren't being used. (btw, 2 actually connects from ECU to "malfunction"
light elsewhere) And for sure. I understand now. Fuse panel is made
for more than one model. And yes of course "3" refers to where relay
is located on fuse panel. That much I knew! --- ;^)

At one point I wondered if I was using the wrong relay! --- :^)

You've also confirmed that the relay only uses 3 pins. The + is wired
internally from 30 to 85 and the ground to complete circuit to
energize relay is from ECM and the other two are for power in from 30
and out to ECM.

*Really* appreciate the help,

Neil.



On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Mark Drillock <drillock@earthlink.net> wrote:
> You are misreading the diagram slightly. VW built the same relay panels to
> be used in more than one configuration. The relay socket is #3, since 3 is
> inside the dark box that labels it. The socket has 6 pins but the relay in
> that diagram is only using 3 of them. Pins 4,5,6 are used while socket pins
> 1,2,3 are provided for another application but nothing connects to them in
> this case.
>
>  The other numbers, like 30, 85, 86, 87, etc are relay pin numbers so 5/87
> says "socket pin 5 ,relay pin 87".
>
>  Mark
>
>
>
>
>  neil N wrote:
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I still have a no start on my conversion, so am double checking the
> > wiring to added relays for Jetta ABA OBD1 into my Vanagon.
> >
> > In this image from Bentley (Jetta):
> >
> > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/jettafinal1.jpg/jettafinal1-full;init:.jpg
> >
> > there are two connections " 3/86 " and " 2 " near relay, that I'm curious
> about.
> >
> > 2 appears to connect with "malfunction" light on dash.
> >
> > + from ignition switch (15) goes to 3/86, but 86A is negative from
> > ECU. There is only an 86 on relay.
> >
> > I would think that they don't shard the connection!
> >
> > And..... it appears that 30 is supplying + to 85 of relay internally,
> > so why would there be a need for "keyed" + to relay?? Relay should be
> > "turned on" by negative from ECU.
> >
> > I'm confused.
> >
> > I guess the simple question is, as per the diagram, do 3/86 and 2
> > actually connect to the relay?
> >
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> >
> > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >
> >
>



--
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http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
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