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Date:         Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:05:34 -0500
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: CV joint 'indicators'?
Comments: To: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <20080417180958.E0F3E7F4045@pop6.cfu.net>
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I agree. In my experience wheel bearings growl and the CV's balls will click or knock. Turning the steering wheel to the stops and making the tight turn in the parking lot will usually make a failing CV "Talk".

John Rodgers 88 GL Driver

Max Wellhouse wrote: > John Muir's(the guy that wrote the first VW repair for idiots book) > description of the bad wheel bearing sound beats them all(may he rest > in peace). He called it a "ballsy rumble". CV joints to me sound > more like a clicking and or popping noise, especially on Front wheel > drive vehicles where you can massage the outer joints with the > turning CW and CCW on a smooth quiet parking lot. > > YMMV > > DM&FS > > At 10:56 AM 4/17/2008, neil N wrote: > >> It's also worth putting the rear up and turning each wheel by hand. >> >> I have no experience with a bad/going bad rear wheel bearing >> sound/symptoms but checking for that may be something to consider. >> >> Neil. >> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote: >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Correction: >> > It IS vehicle speed related as well as RPM-related, I guess. >> > There is a specific 'range' (probably about >> 1500-3500rpm) where the noise >> > is more pronounced as I accelerate away...It's just difficult to say >> > exactly, but it sort of sounds like the suspension goes >> 'all-steel' for a >> > few seconds as the Van rocks back onto the right rear >> accelerating away from >> > a stop..That description may be a bit 'Harsh'...it's not really >> that loud >> > (yet?) but more of a faint.."RRrr, Rrr,, rrr..rr..r..." as I pull >> out onto >> > busy highways...I have not noticed it going uphill on twisty roads or >> > crawling along backcountry trails. >> > >> > A quiet large paved lot is a good idea, I'll try that.. >> > >> > Don Hanson >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "neil N" <musomuso@gmail.com> >> > To: "Don Hanson" <dhanson@gorge.net> >> > Cc: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:28 AM >> > Subject: Re: CV joint 'indicators'? >> > >> > >> > > Try driving in circles CCW and CW in a parking lot. Get a helper to >> > > listen out the PS window to compare notes. (which side is it coming >> > > from?) >> > > >> > > CV sounds should be related to vehicle speed, not RPM's. If it's >> > > related to RPM's, then it is likely something else. >> > > >> > > Neil. >> > > >> > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> >> wrote: >> > > > Hi all, >> > > > Maybe I'm hearing things... >> > > > >> > > > But, it seems when I accelerate away from a stop while >> turning left, >> > my 84 >> > > > 5sp manual makes a little extra noise from the rear area. >> It's an >> > > > RPM-related noise that increases in "tempo" as the RPMs >> increase. It >> > seems >> > > > to diminish, then go away as I get moving, and it only seems >> to occur >> > when >> > > > I'm accelerating more vigorously than I usually do.. I may be >> > imagining >> > > > that this sound seems to be slowly getting louder..There has >> always, >> > since >> > > > I've had the van, been a little noise..I've thought it normal >> for >> > > > vanagons...but now, since nothing has broken with my van for >> a few >> > months..I >> > > > am thinking it's "time" I have not ever serviced the CV >> joints, but I >> > have >> > > > checked the wheel bearings and re-freshed the transmission >> oil plus >> > checked >> > > > brake shoes, etc.. >> > > > Can anyone suggest a simple way to check on the condition of >> my CV >> > joints, >> > > > like maybe jack up and run in gear, or tug on the wheel or >> whatever? >> > > > Or should I just drive the sucker till it breaks and not >> worry so >> > much? >> > > > >> > > > Don Hanson >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" >> > > >> > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >> > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" >> >> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > >


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