Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:50:41 -0700
Reply-To: Donna Skarloken <dskarloken@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Donna Skarloken <dskarloken@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: MPG redux
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My 87 Wolfsburg 2wd has always got 18-20, very rarely 21, mountains, wind,
whatever. I will verify with my son, who now drives it, though he lives in
the Bay Area and takes public transit when possible. I'll ask him if he has
noted his mileage when he has come to visit me/my mom, which is the most
driving he has done in recent months.
Donna
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:38 PM, mordo <helmut.blong@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did the Syncro have the same fuel economy numbers as the 2WD? I also can't
> imagine that you folks with your laden Westies are getting the same
> efficiency as me with my virtually empty Carat.
> I am sure in my case that experiences with 18+ mpg is delusional. It's a
> delusion caused by a fuel sender and gauge that isn't remotely accurate.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>
> Date: Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: MPG redux
> To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>
>
> Possible, but are they running in a lean condition and doing more
> harm than good? A sort of false economy of sorts. Shorter than
> stock tires will generate more miles on the odometer than are really
> traveled thereby skewing the mpg to the high side as well. An
> incomplete filling of the tank would skew to the upside as
> well. Filling the tank to the very top is wasteful anyway, so how do
> we accurately document MPG?
>
> Driving at 55mph, although boring, is perhaps a way to get a 2 in the
> tens column. I've gotten 20+maybe 3 or 4 times in 11 years of
> driving a Vanagon,but the norm is 15-17. There's a good website on
> how to drive economically called hypermiling or something like
> that. www.cleanmpg.com/forums They're more into attacking the EPA
> method of determining MPG ratings for new cars, but there's some
> useful as well as unsafe practices as well.
>
> I guess I look at it this way; if I'm not making $3-400 a month
> payments on a vehicle I can't afford to fill the tank up with gas in
> the first place, then driving a paid for Vanagon with "poor" mpg
> ratings will just have to do for now. Anybody done the math on how
> long it will take for a Prius to pay for itself in gas savings? I
> guess if they ever start rationing gas again, maybe it will
> matter. Geeeeeee. Gas Rationing....there's something we haven't
> heard in a while. Wouldn't we be rationing it if it were in short
> supply? No, it's just costing more.
>
> Time to dismantle the soapbox. I need the wood for burning in my stove.
>
> DM&FS
>
>
> At 11:22 AM 4/21/2008, Mike Miller wrote:
>
> What about them folks reporting 18-21`mpg?
> >
> > Delusional? diesel? deceptive?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On 4/20/08 6:52 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The factory rating was only 15 mpg for both city and highway. You will
> > not
> > > get much more on a regular basis. My best on long trips is about 17 to
> > > 17.5. With AC and 70+mph 15 is more likely.
> > >
> > > Maximum economy occurs around 45 mph on fairly level roads. I have
> done
> > as
> > > well as 21 dong extended low speed tours such as New England or route
> 1
> > in
> > > Florida.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > Mike Miller
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:40 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: MPG redux
> > >
> > > Van folk,
> > >
> > > Took the 87 syncro with the new O2 sensor on a trip up the California
> > > coast,
> > > Highway 1, mostly curves and ups and downs. Got 16 MPG which isn't
> what
> > > I'd
> > > hoped for.
> > >
> > > Next step is to try a highway cruise. I'll post the results.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> mordo
> 1990 Carat
>
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