Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:07:20 -0700
Reply-To: Mike Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Mike Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: MPG redux
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See if the famous Vanagon Wiki mileage survey is of any help:
http://vanagonwiki.net/index.php/Mileage
You'll need to download the pdf to see Westy results separately.
--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
KG6RCR
On 4/21/2008 12:38 PM mordo wrote:
> Did the Syncro have the same fuel economy numbers as the 2WD? I also can't
> imagine that you folks with your laden Westies are getting the same
> efficiency as me with my virtually empty Carat.
> I am sure in my case that experiences with 18+ mpg is delusional. It's a
> delusion caused by a fuel sender and gauge that isn't remotely accurate.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>
> Date: Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: MPG redux
> To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>
>
> Possible, but are they running in a lean condition and doing more
> harm than good? A sort of false economy of sorts. Shorter than
> stock tires will generate more miles on the odometer than are really
> traveled thereby skewing the mpg to the high side as well. An
> incomplete filling of the tank would skew to the upside as
> well. Filling the tank to the very top is wasteful anyway, so how do
> we accurately document MPG?
>
> Driving at 55mph, although boring, is perhaps a way to get a 2 in the
> tens column. I've gotten 20+maybe 3 or 4 times in 11 years of
> driving a Vanagon,but the norm is 15-17. There's a good website on
> how to drive economically called hypermiling or something like
> that. www.cleanmpg.com/forums They're more into attacking the EPA
> method of determining MPG ratings for new cars, but there's some
> useful as well as unsafe practices as well.
>
> I guess I look at it this way; if I'm not making $3-400 a month
> payments on a vehicle I can't afford to fill the tank up with gas in
> the first place, then driving a paid for Vanagon with "poor" mpg
> ratings will just have to do for now. Anybody done the math on how
> long it will take for a Prius to pay for itself in gas savings? I
> guess if they ever start rationing gas again, maybe it will
> matter. Geeeeeee. Gas Rationing....there's something we haven't
> heard in a while. Wouldn't we be rationing it if it were in short
> supply? No, it's just costing more.
>
> Time to dismantle the soapbox. I need the wood for burning in my stove.
>
> DM&FS
>
>
> At 11:22 AM 4/21/2008, Mike Miller wrote:
>
> What about them folks reporting 18-21`mpg?
>> Delusional? diesel? deceptive?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 4/20/08 6:52 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The factory rating was only 15 mpg for both city and highway. You will
>> not
>>> get much more on a regular basis. My best on long trips is about 17 to
>>> 17.5. With AC and 70+mph 15 is more likely.
>>>
>>> Maximum economy occurs around 45 mph on fairly level roads. I have done
>> as
>>> well as 21 dong extended low speed tours such as New England or route 1
>> in
>>> Florida.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>>> Mike Miller
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:40 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: MPG redux
>>>
>>> Van folk,
>>>
>>> Took the 87 syncro with the new O2 sensor on a trip up the California
>>> coast,
>>> Highway 1, mostly curves and ups and downs. Got 16 MPG which isn't what
>>> I'd
>>> hoped for.
>>>
>>> Next step is to try a highway cruise. I'll post the results.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> mordo
> 1990 Carat
>
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