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Date:         Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:27:43 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Air Engine... the ultimate Vanagon Engine Conversion!
Comments: To: Allan Streib <streib@CS.INDIANA.EDU>
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And while you're thinking about that, please come up with a better plan for generating lots of electricity other than the coal that is burned daily, mostly in the eastern part of the US to make the precious electrons. About 400 train cars of coal leave Wyoming every day full of coal bound for the east. Course, hydro and nuclear have big downsides as well. Every roof of every building and vehicle should be solar panels. And ..........heating of buildings ..........don't even get me started - but the amount of energy that is wasted needlessly due to LACK of solar design in buildings is astronomical. Very white man style - drill and pump oil from thousands of miles to the north, ship it or get it here somehow, then refine it, then use it to heat homes, and meanwhile..........frequent, free and abundant solar energy just goes to waste right outside the window. Really tragic. I have hope for tidal generation too. Btw, there's 250 years worth of coal under the US at current rates of use. Just gotta burn it cleanly...... But lack of solar building design - a total crime that that's not fully exploited.

Also, the Reconfigurable House - faces the sun in the winter, turns away from the sun in the hot summer. Now that's not to hard an idea to come up with. There is SO MUCH waste gong on it's just pathetic.

Native American make small fire, get close. White man make big fire, sit further back.

Ok, back to fixin' vanagons ! Scott

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:04 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Air Engine... the ultimate Vanagon Engine Conversion!

With a strong enough tank (which will add hundreds of pounds of weight itself) and high enough pressure, I guess it's possible.

People forget that the energy has to come from somewhere, though.

If significant numbers of people stop using gasoline and use utility electric sources (e.g. for charging batteries, compressing air, whatever) the current electrical grid will probably not cope with the additional load. We already have rolling blackouts in some urban areas -- imagine adding to that the load of millions of people charging their cars.

Allan -- 1991 Vanagon GL

"Paul Guzyk" <paullist08@GUZYK.COM> said: > This has gotta be BS. > > Think about air tools in a shop. Your compressor is cycling on all > the time just to unscrew bolts. > > How the heck will you propel a Vanagon that weighs thousand of pounds > for many miles using compressed air? > > Call my cynical but I don't believe it... > > > > >Saw this on the History Channel last night (or was it Discovery) either way. > >what a great concept, and a perfect solution to high oil prices! >

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