Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 23:01:35 -0400
Reply-To: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject: Re: sad engine fire victim, 88 Wolfy
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Ok, it's maybe my very bad English here but are you talking about the metal
Bus's fuel line, the way they where install on Air-Cool engine?????
I have work on so many Air Cool engine and all metal fuel line where in
PERFECT SHAPE!!! And those stupid engineer went from a great design to a
stupid one... ho yea, i see you guys comming, Air Cool engine where somewhat
sealed form the outside elements.. still! I have never seen ONE rusted metal
fuel line on any Bus's or Air-Cool vanagon! Subaru, come on...!!! Go see any
old 2.2L from the 90', please, find some rust and show me a picture,
Pleassssssseeee. The only good thing VW did is to use the most reliable and
best quality hoses in the world... good thing for many VW Vanagon driver who
are not aware that those should be service.
Don't compare the very intelligent fuel distribution of the Subaru engine to
the horrible VW one. Again, i will have to show you picture of both fuel
rail so you will understand why VW design is so bad and plain stupid.
I have stoped posting about how frigging great those conversions are... but
i will never accept to read any comparison or bashing about the
Vanaru/Subaru workmanship.
I work 7 on 7, 12hr a day on those van, more than most of you here... i read
so many crap sometime that it make me mad.
Here what a'm doing right now:
http://www.benplace.com/87_syncro1.htm
If you don't know your stuff think twice before writing.
Instead, for the newby, read this and do what you have to do... and NOT next
week:
http://www.benplace.com/fuel_line.htm
Ben
On Thu, 1 May 2008 23:59:26 -0700, John Anderson <wvukidsdoc@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>Don't knock the solution, in the confines of the layout VW chose to stay
with (horizontally opposed) those bits are a major design improvement over
the steel ring on the T4. First the steel ring bits rust, and even rust
through, and so will the ones on a Subagon/Vanaru in the same climates if it
makes it as long as say a '75 bus. Next they really were a design
improvement as Bosch found out that their previous small steel ring system
proved to have insufficient fuel reserve as engine displacements and
operating rpms grew (I'm not talking VW vans here so much), whereas those
nice plastic bits do. I've actually backfitted them to a high output
megasquirted 2.4 liter T4 for this very reason in the past though out of
these exact reliability concerns eventually just bought some good old cheap
aluminum fuel rail stock and went to proper O-ringed injectors doing away
with the ever ready to fail from age stub tubes on the injectors. No reason
we couldn't do so on a regular
> waterboxer or keep the stock injectors and put barbed fittings into the
rail. Does anyone know if the plastic ones are still even available, they
were 7-8 years ago when I last looked. The bulkhead fitting worries me more
though on most vans.
>
> John
>
>Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Well, they do, kinda.
>
>A Subaru motor comes with steel fuel lines on the motor, doing away with yet
>another cheesy WBX design "solution". :)
>
>
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