Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:11:26 -0700
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Buick V6 powered Vanagon
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Interesting to note that there are "shorter deck" versions of the 3800.
May be of use in terms of lower engine cover height? (it also appears
to have been used in quite a few models)
The 3800 Series II From Wikipedia:
Introduced in 1995, the Series II is quite a different engine.
Although the stroke for the 3.8 L engine remained at 3.4 in (86 mm),
and the bore remained at 3.8 in (97 mm), the engine architecture was
vastly changed. The deck height is shorter than the Series I, reducing
weight and total engine package size. This required that the piston
connecting rods be shortened 1 in (25 mm), and the crankshaft was also
redesigned. A new intake manifold improved breathing while a
redesigned cylinder head featured larger valves and a higher
compression ratio. The result was 205 hp (153 kW) and 230 lb·ft (312
N·m), better fuel economy, and 26 lb (12 kg) lighter overall weight
(to 392 lb). The 3800 weighs only 22 lb (10.0 kg) more than the High
Feature V6, despite being an all cast iron design.
In 1999 the 3800 Series II in the Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac
Firebird received a new throttle body with Electronic Throttle
Control.
The 3800 Series II was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 1995 through 1997.
L36 Naturally Aspirated
A variation of the L36 engine in a 1998 Holden VT Commodore
Another variation of the L36 engine in a 1995 Oldsmobile 88
This engine is or was used in the following vehicles:
Buick Le Sabre
Buick Park Avenue
Buick Regal
Buick Riviera
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Impala
Chevrolet Lumina LTZ
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
Holden Commodore (VS, VT, VX, VY)
Holden Statesman (VS, WH, WK)
Holden Ute (VU, VY)
Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight
Oldsmobile Intrigue
Oldsmobile LSS
Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight
Pontiac Bonneville
Pontiac Firebird
Pontiac Grand Prix
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On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
> The GM 3800 V6 is supposed to be one of "the 10 best engines of the 20th
> century"
>
> I know of a lot of people who think those are really great engines.
>
> Allan
> --
> 1991 Vanagon GL
>
>
>
> "Matthew Snook" <matt@SNOOKSBAND.COM> said:
> > My Dad loves those cars. Swears he's getting over 30 mpg all the time - he
> > puts in a lot of miles every year. He keeps a lookout and buys them
> > whenever there's a good deal, like $800 for the whole car. Gives them to
> > whichever of his grandkids is needing a car, or whatever. If the sedan gets
> > 30+, what would a Vanagon get? :)
> >
> > Matt
>
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