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Date:         Wed, 7 May 2008 12:09:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Brakes not letting go all the way in the rear? Clunk after
              stopping...
Comments: To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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For sure you need to get the read drums off asap. Might be a mess in there. And I've had drums be just awful to get off sometimes too.

Ideally, after you remove the two 11mm little bolts, you just whack the drum hard on the edge with a good BFH, and the drum just pops off the flange.

Penetrating oil where the drum sits on the flange can help. I wouldn't worry about contaminating the shoes too much.

If I just can not get the drum off the flange, I undo the big nut and remove the drum and flange together. That 'should' just slide off. I've had those stick like hell too. Spend an hour or more recently, getting drum and flange off together as a unit. Had to finally get out a slide hammer puller. I've had to resort to a torch a few times even.

If the brakes are really old, be aware that there could be a big lip keep the drum from sliding over the shoes and off. It's barely possible to sneak in there and undo the self-adjuster mechanism about 20 clicks. So make sure that's not happening. And I've had the flange just 'stuck' in old thick grease on the axle spines too. If at possible, get the drum off the flange, For doing brake work, I like to remove the wheel mounting flange too, for easy access. IMPORTANT TRICK ! - only take one side apart at a time !! That's so you can go look at the other side for reference while you put the first side back together. Never mix parts side-to-side, and I can not emphasize enough, do one side at a time.

I've had drums or 'drums with flange' that took me too hours of struggle to get off, and I've done hundreds of them, so I should know what I'm doing - I hope yours come right off !

Scott www.turbovans.com

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of neil N Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:58 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Brakes not letting go all the way in the rear? Clunk after stopping...

When pulling the drums, start with the side that has "mucked up" cable.

And if it were me, I whould inspect each set of rear brakes.

If drums won't come off, put penetrating oil on area where axle stub and opening on drum meet. Clean this area too. And if needed, put penetrating oil at holes where the little bolts go in (if they're still there). The oil *may* work it's way inbetween the axle flange and area where it contacts drum.

*** The oil may contaminate the brake shoes when put at the "little bolt" holes so bear this in mind. (i.e. maybe consider it a last resort) ***

Cheers,

Neil.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:17 AM, David Bohannan <fjazzbass@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a somewhat disconcerting noise and "feeling" after coming to a > complete stop... It feels as if my rear brakes are releasing a second or 2 > AFTER I let off the brake pedal...it makes a bit of a thunk noise and feels > like something is releasing...maybe even in a suspension component... > > I saw someone in the archives had a similar "symptom" but I didn't see any > response... > > Any clues what I should look at first? > > I know for a fact that my parking brake needs help...it barely holds on and > it seems the driver side cable is all mucked up...looks rusted and torn...I > am going to be ordering 2 of those (one for each side) and checking the > brakes themselves this weekend... > > Any advice is appreciated!! > > -- > Dave - KC9FYM > 85 GL "baby bus" > http://fjazzbass.blogspot.com >

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