Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:03:49 -0700
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From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: web ETKA
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Here's a bit of useful info when using ETKA or the vagcat site when working
with Vanagon listings:
Originally on the Parts Fiche set, VW divided the listings of Vanagon parts
into 80-85, 86-87 and 88-92. Although these divisions aren't seen when
using ETKA/vagcat, the parts text listings still are however in a very
subtle fashion as the divisions were carried over when the fiche were
digitized.
Using Paul's example of having to go to the 1988 listing to see parts for
his 1987 engine, therein lies a potential problem and that is the parts
text listings for his 1987 model *MAY NOT* be accurate, because the text
listings *MAY* have changed between 1987 and 1988, especially when
considering VIN and engine divisions for components. In otherwords, 1988
listings shown are the same for 88-92 models and nothing will show of any
VIN/Engine Number changes for 86-87 (or 80-85 for that matter). OTOH, it's
possible that the engine parts text listings *MAY* be identical 87 or 88 on
the original different fiche, but I wouldn't take that chance as a potential
incorrect part number may be selected (and I hate having to return incorrect
parts!)
NOTE: The images remained the same, regardless of the year period with one
exception - if there were item diagrams for lets say 88-92 models (specific
for that year period), they wouldn't show up on 80-85 or 86-87 listings.
The same applies in the reverse - a diagram specific for 80-85 won't show up
in the 86-87 or 88-91 listings and something for 86-87 will not show up
elsewhere either.
This is why it is important to select the actual year model when using ETKA
or vagcat.
As a matter of habit because I know the (parts group divisions from
experience), when I want to look up anything for my 84's, I usually select
1985. On my friend's 86, I usually select 1987 and on my boss' 90, I select
1992 because I know that those selections will include those parts text
listings from the year periods I mentioned above.
In the case of Syncros, there was only 1 Parts Fiche, so selecting any year
will give you the info needed, regardless if you're working on a 86 or a 91.
Other VW models that use multiple Parts Fiche during their production are
mainly the Watercooled models (especially 75-84 Rabbit - there were 5
different Parts Fiche year series). This made keeping track of them a real
PITA back then. With ETKA, selecting the actual year made it a lot easier
to accurately look up the parts desired.
--
Jim Thompson
84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Paul Guzyk <paullist08@guzyk.com> wrote:
> I agree, there is some flakeyness going on with http://www.vagcat.com/
>
> Some users are complaining in their forums about some images not
> showing, even if you register.
>
> I also noticed some images are backwards i.e. mirror image but still
> very useful.
>
> I could not access a page for 1987 engine parts, but the same page
> displayed when I changed the year to 1988.
>
> Hopefully the site authors will fix the glitches. In the meantime,
> it looks like you'll have to be patient, or try IE.
>
> I've used it some time already, but it stopped working correctrly with
> > Firefox. When you use IE for this site it works :-(
>
>
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