Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:11:37 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Advice about how to deal with auto shipper damage
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That's a very good point - I hadn't thought of that , the seller.
There could be some recourse there.
Though the seller is likely to say 'it was fine as far as I know.'
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
pdooley
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:36 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Advice about how to deal with auto shipper damage
Personally, I don't think the issue is the "type" of car.
Parts blew off of it.
It doesn't matter if it happened on a kit or normal passenger car.
I think the seller has the responsibility to secure the car's body parts
prior to shipping. He is the person that knows the most about the vehicle
condition and also knows darn well the vehicle he is selling is going on a
car hauler that will be flying down the road at 80 mph. If he knowingly
turns it loose it that condition, he is being negligent.
I suppose you could also say the driver knows he will be flying down the
road too, so you could say he was negligent not to check the integrity of
the vehicle.
I still think the seller is the person with the most responsibility however.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Ken Wilford
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:58 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Advice about how to deal with auto shipper damage
I wanted to ask the advice of the list about a problem that I am
having. I have shipped and received vehicles many, many times with no
incidents or problems over the years however I guess you are bound to
have a problem eventually. I recently had a Sterling Kit car shipped up
here to NJ from KY. The driver calls me tonight to tell me that he is
going to deliver the car tomorrow morning. That is fine. However he
then proceeds to tell me that he had the car on the upper level of the
car hauler and that at some point in the trip the hood of the car has
blown off. So now I am being delivered a damaged vehicle and I am not
sure what my options are. I am thinking about just noting this on the
shipping form and then taking the loss of the hood up with the shipping
company. The driver tells me that he has already told them about the
problem and that they are telling him that because it was a kit car it
should have been transported in an enclosed carrier instead of in an
open carrier so they aren't responsible for the loss of the hood.
However I was really clear with the shipping company when we were
scheduling the pick up of the car that it was a kit car. The guy I was
talking to knew all about kit cars and told me that he was thinking
about buying one himself. I gave him the website address of Sterling so
that he could take a look and see what the car was like. I figure if it
was an issue about transporting the car on an open carrier they should
have said something to me at that time. Or the driver should have came
to pick up the car and then said, Nope I can't transport the car this
way we are going to need to use a closed carrier, etc. I feel that
since they picked up the car then it is there responsibility to deliver
it in one piece. After all I didn't pay for most of the car to be
shipped to me here in NJ, I paid for all of the car to be shipped here.
Anyone have a similar experience? How did you deal with it? How did it
come out in the end?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
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