Date:         Tue, 13 May 2008 06:49:56 -0700
Reply-To:     Syncronicity1 <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Syncronicity1 <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Difficult starting, smell gas,
              fires when pedal down (more air flow)
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Craig,

Yes, your description sounds very similar to what I am experiencing,
although I have repeated it only a couple of times.  Since your experience
points to a vacuum leak, it just reminded me of one thing I have to clear
up, and that is the vacuum lines to the rear locker and vacuum tank.  I
noticed a whining or mild whistle after I turn off the engine that seemed to
last 30-60 seconds or so and I was very sure that it was the vacuum system
for the rear locker, i.e. the vacuum storage tank or attached associated
hoses.  Perhaps this leak got worse now, and doesn't whine anymore, and now
I have a large vacuum leak like you had.

Looks like debug on all the vacuum lines is in order, and also the Temp II
sensor test (what Rob wrote).

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
craig cowan
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:33 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Difficult starting, smell gas, fires when pedal down (more air
flow)

I've had this problem!!!!!!
Does it crank and crank and crank, and as you put down the pedal, it starts
to sound like its going to start but you have to keep turning the key, and
then finally you let go and it fires up? Like a "gradual starting"?

Mine was a HUGE vaccuum leak. One of the half inch breather lines was
off....
It gave me crazy idling problems unless warm as well.

I hope this helps.
-Craig
'85GL

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Rob <becida@comcast.net> wrote:

> A hard to start (either when warm or cold) or type problem has often
> been the temp2 sensor if you go by this list.
> We've had bad sensors and sensors with the wires loose and wire
> connections that needed cleaning.
> Heck I had a temp related running problem on my 91 Jetta and it was
> the temp2 sensor.
>
> Anyone remember a temp related problem that wasn't the temp2 sensor
> in the last year?
>
> Rob
> becida@comcast.net
> with an '84 westy in the garage!
>
>
>
>
> At  5/12/2008 04:15 PM, Syncronicity1 wrote:
>
> > Hello folks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems a problem has developed and I'd appreciate any leads to point me
> > in
> > the right direction.  '89 Syncro WBX.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.      First it cranks fine, but doesn't start.  On cold start.
> > 2.      After a few seconds of cranking I went to look in the back, and
> > I
> > could smell a bit of gas.
> > 3.      I tried again and put the accelerator to the floor and then it
> > started.
> > 4.      Have had similar experiences in the last few days.
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems to restart when warm without much problem.
> >
> >
> >
> > Interested in a couple of leads that may be the problem before I go into
> > full debug mode.
> >
> > -          temp sensors?
> >
> > -          Vacuum leak?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> >
> > Roland
> >
> > 760-420-9260
> >
> > '89 Syncro WBX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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