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Date:         Sun, 18 May 2008 08:12:03 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson@GORGE.NET>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson@GORGE.NET>
Subject:      Belly pans for speed /mpg
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While the vanagon might just be the worst-shape possible for efficient aerodynamics, small improvements add up. Maybe the Sprinter vans are worse shapes..The Aztec has to be pretty close, and the Scion is no Ferrari, either.

The "details" do make a difference, however. Small changes or improvements add up. Smoothing the underside of a Van would certainly show some measurable improvement in it's aerodynamic efficiency..thereby giving it more top speed and better gas mileage. For the amount of 'work' involved in fabricating something for the underside of a van, it might be worthwhile doing. With a vehicle lift and some basic tools it'd be pretty simple to fab up some kinda belly pans that would work well.

It is pretty amazing how small aero details can make a difference. I used to laugh at the lengths my good friend and engine builder went to with his Porsche 928 for the Open Road events..But he's now a member of the "200mph Club". He would spend hours, after arriving at a race in Nv. taping up his car, removing mirrors, wipers, etc. Then when we, too, "moved up" to the Unlimited Class, I found he was right on by attending to those details before each speed run. Mirrors on?...Lose about 15mph. Windows down? at least 25mph. Nose of car set too low? 10mph.. One size wider tires? 10mph..It all matters. As you get into the highest speeds, it matter even more..(speed is also related to 'cubic dollars'.) So if one was to keep a van for another 20 years, after putting on some undertrays, you'd certainly save on the fuel, even if it was just 2/10s of a mile per gallon.. I bet filling that luggage space in a Westy top might help a bunch also. The front of any vehicle is the most important, because any vortex or turbulence created at the front end continues to create drag all the way back over the whole shape..

Somewhat interesting is the fact that as racecar aerodynamics have improved, the 'wing' has been eliminated. The Wing, on racecars, was used to increase downforce..the car's ability to generate traction by using the air to 'push' it down onto the track. Now, the engineers have refined the underside shape of the racecars to generate the same downforce. essentially by shaping the car's underside like an upside down airplane wing..and creating 'negative lift' to pull the car down onto the track...

Don Hanson


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