Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:57:24 -0700
Reply-To: Mike Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Mike Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: ADMINISTRIVIA - Reply from AT&T/BellSouth Part I
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We already have vanagonwiki.com, but I bet there's no reason why its
content and software could not be transferred over to the new
vanagon.com server. (He said, knowing nothing of the actual details
involved in doing such a thing.)
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
KG6RCR
On 5/20/2008 9:32 AM Lucas Thompson wrote:
> Hi Ron, thanks for the update!
>
> If you're not interested in having the domain any more, or you'd like
> to give it to the list community, I think that the easiest way to do
> this is for the list members to create a corporation. Then you can
> hand off control of the domain to that entity. This way no single
> person has control over it and it can be cooperative. It also limits
> personal liability in case VWoA tries to sue the DNS owner for lost
> revenue for using their trademark or something silly like that.
>
> It sounds like Jim already has the hosting part of this under control,
> so it's just a simple matter of transferring the domain name and
> copying the existing vanagon.com Web content to the new provider.
>
> Then maybe we could make vanagon.com into a wiki and the listmembers
> could add DIY tech tips and sad pictures of burned up vanagons from
> neglected fuel lines. :)))
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM, ron 'coyote' lussier
> <rlussier@lenscraft.com> wrote:
>> A few small corrections...
>>
>> On May 19, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Jim Arnott wrote:
>>
>>> IMHO, this situation is becoming a mess for lack of a better term. We
>>> have the vanagon.com domain owned by Ron Lussier who has had little to do
>>> with the list for a number of years, hosted on a box in Sausilito pointing
>>> to gerry.vanagon.com, hosted on a box that lives on the east coast in a
>>> guy's closet who is rarely available running mailing list software
>>> administered by a guy who lives in Oregon and takes most of the heat. Any
>>> piece of it breaks and, as Jeff Dunham says, all I can do is run to the end
>>> of my chain and bark.
>> Actually, the 'vanagon.com' domain servers are in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
>> these days, at 4java.ca.
>>
>>> Legally, this mailing list belongs to Ron Lussier. Historically it has
>>> belonged to the listmembers (we bought the hardware and software.) I have my
>>> thoughts as to how this ought to be resolved, but frankly, it's managed to
>>> stumble along as is for seven or eight years so I really don't expect that
>>> much will change. Truth be told, I getting burned out because all I can do
>>> is tier one support. I do not have the tools or the access necessary to
>>> actually fix the problems or update the site. I don't even have a direct
>>> line to tier two support. I just have to leave a note and hope that someone
>>> will get back to me. Just like you.
>> I disagree that the mailing list legally 'belongs to me'. I neither started
>> it nor consider myself to own it.
>>
>> You're right, though, that I've had little to do with either the list or my
>> own vanagon.com site for some time. I'm still trying to figure out what to
>> do about that.
>>
>> coyote
>>
>> 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧
>> To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we
>> are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
>> servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
>> -- Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919)
>>
>
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