Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:07:39 -0700
Reply-To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: ADMINISTRIVIA - Reply from AT&T/BellSouth Part I
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I would think a link from a given Vanagon list page to the VanagonWiki
(does it already exist?) would do the trick.
No matter where/who hosts this site, as long as it's ok with the list
owner, a link can be easily added.
Just my PropellerHeadWannaBe .02
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Mike Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
> We already have vanagonwiki.com, but I bet there's no reason why its
> content and software could not be transferred over to the new
> vanagon.com server. (He said, knowing nothing of the actual details
> involved in doing such a thing.)
>
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
> On 5/20/2008 9:32 AM Lucas Thompson wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron, thanks for the update!
>>
>> If you're not interested in having the domain any more, or you'd like
>> to give it to the list community, I think that the easiest way to do
>> this is for the list members to create a corporation. Then you can
>> hand off control of the domain to that entity. This way no single
>> person has control over it and it can be cooperative. It also limits
>> personal liability in case VWoA tries to sue the DNS owner for lost
>> revenue for using their trademark or something silly like that.
>>
>> It sounds like Jim already has the hosting part of this under control,
>> so it's just a simple matter of transferring the domain name and
>> copying the existing vanagon.com Web content to the new provider.
>>
>> Then maybe we could make vanagon.com into a wiki and the listmembers
>> could add DIY tech tips and sad pictures of burned up vanagons from
>> neglected fuel lines. :)))
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM, ron 'coyote' lussier
>> <rlussier@lenscraft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A few small corrections...
>>>
>>> On May 19, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Jim Arnott wrote:
>>>
>>>> IMHO, this situation is becoming a mess for lack of a better term. We
>>>> have the vanagon.com domain owned by Ron Lussier who has had little to
>>>> do
>>>> with the list for a number of years, hosted on a box in Sausilito
>>>> pointing
>>>> to gerry.vanagon.com, hosted on a box that lives on the east coast in a
>>>> guy's closet who is rarely available running mailing list software
>>>> administered by a guy who lives in Oregon and takes most of the heat.
>>>> Any
>>>> piece of it breaks and, as Jeff Dunham says, all I can do is run to the
>>>> end
>>>> of my chain and bark.
>>>
>>> Actually, the 'vanagon.com' domain servers are in Toronto, Ontario,
>>> Canada
>>> these days, at 4java.ca.
>>>
>>>> Legally, this mailing list belongs to Ron Lussier. Historically it has
>>>> belonged to the listmembers (we bought the hardware and software.) I
>>>> have my
>>>> thoughts as to how this ought to be resolved, but frankly, it's managed
>>>> to
>>>> stumble along as is for seven or eight years so I really don't expect
>>>> that
>>>> much will change. Truth be told, I getting burned out because all I can
>>>> do
>>>> is tier one support. I do not have the tools or the access necessary to
>>>> actually fix the problems or update the site. I don't even have a direct
>>>> line to tier two support. I just have to leave a note and hope that
>>>> someone
>>>> will get back to me. Just like you.
>>>
>>> I disagree that the mailing list legally 'belongs to me'. I neither
>>> started
>>> it nor consider myself to own it.
>>>
>>> You're right, though, that I've had little to do with either the list or
>>> my
>>> own vanagon.com site for some time. I'm still trying to figure out what
>>> to
>>> do about that.
>>>
>>> coyote
>>>
>>> 覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧
>>> To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we
>>> are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
>>> and
>>> servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
>>> -- Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919)
>>>
>>
>
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