Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:47:15 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Foss - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Foss - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Water Pump // Alternator Belt problem
In-Reply-To: <71d9cdf90805241908u6bdb88e2scaabcf33ba1cddc9@mail.gmail.com>
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Harold, check the w pump pulley.
it will ( stupidly ) fit on both ways.
Only one way is correct.
it's not marked in any way which side is 'out' , and it's an easy
mistake to make.
I mark them, or paint them with bright paint for which side is 'out'.
Very likely this is it.
and.....................
I didn't hear anything about CV joint servicing, trans oil changing to
MT-90 Redline Synthetic, ( if manual )
inspecting front wheel bearings grease and adjustment ( this BARELY
wears btw ) .
Nor rear brake inspection inside the drums for worn shoes and especially
leaky wheel cyldiners.
nor inspecting the front brake pads.
nor changing the brake fluid.
nor lubing the shift linage if manual trans. ( or servicing both parts
of an automtic trans )
nor lubing the throttle cable inside the white tube in the forward body
of the van.
nor checking that the spare tire is good and has sufficient tire pressure.
nor checking all exterior lights- brake lights etc.
let's see ...........what else.....
man..........i find 400 hundred things to lube on a vanagon when i get it.
I am usually the FIRST person ever to lube the seat belt latches, for
example.
and every latch and hinge on the whole van.
or treat all the rubber.
Windshield washer fluid and function of the sprayers ?
How good are the shocks. ?
What is the charging voltage to the battery ?
How is the battery water ? Is there corrosion on the terminals or inside
the battery box ? ( found an 86 lately this is rare, but big holes
corroded right through the battery box floor )
is there a # 2 battery?
I bouught an 85 Wolfsburg Weekender about a year ago - behind the
driver's seat was an original white case, Audi symbol - those 4 blue
rings if you've ever seen one- 80's era VW original equipment battery
............an original battery, from the factory in Germany
............I was THE FIRST PERSON IN OVER 20 YEARS to know that battery
was in there or ever lay eyes on it.
And it was fried to nothing of course.
no owner, no shop, EVER,.........................I suspect, knew about
that battery in there or serviced it, in 23 years.
I could probably add 100 more things to this list.- small detail things.
Lube the rear hatch hinges and pivot points for the struts top and
bottom, and the latch at the bottom.
And spray a good penetrating ( i like Prolong ) spray synthetic grease
into all key lock cylinders.
you know what happens when people lube every little thing that moves on
the whole van ? ( which no one ever does of course )
..........why..............................................things.....................................last
.....................................indefenitly
........................................ !
Isn't that just amazing ?? !!
so fun i think.
and here's what gets me ........................a half second shot of a
spray lube is good for about a year or two practically.
Is that so hard, when the alternative it to never ever do
'anything'...........until things are broken, stuck, jammed, falling off.
What is it with me ? - I just like taking care of mechanical things.
And so rewarding too, especially on a very Wonderful and WORTHY vehicle
like a vanagon .
I should publish my 'real' service list on my site.
it would go on for pages. Every little thing that moves.
like this.............that spring on the throttle body , where it hooks
into a small hole at the aft end.
tell me what happens if it never gets lubed, and tell me what happens it
it gets lubed once in 5 years.
for the former- it wears a notch in the round spring hole, for the later
- nothing happens, it stays happy.
i like to lube the throttle body pivots and springs.
did i miss air and fuel filters on your report ?
Have fun !!!
scott
www.turbovans.com
Jake de Villiers wrote:
> It sounds like you've done the heavy lifting Harold!
>
> Your pulleys need to be in fairly good alignment. Maybe you can shim the
> water pump pulley out so that it matches better with the others. Maybe you
> have the wrong ( ie 1.9) water pump on there?
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Harold Teer <teer.vanagon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I need some advice/help with a problem. In preparing for a long trip this
>> summer which could amount to about 12,000-14,000 miles, I decided to do as
>> much of the preventive maintenance on our van as I could so that I would
>> learn more about the van and how to fix things should we have problems on
>> the road. I changed the spark plugs, rotor, distributor cap, fuel filter,
>> air filter, oil and oil filter, and flushed the power steering, brake and
>> clutch systems. As I was doing all of that, I noticed that the water
>> pump/alternator belt was loose and frayed a little even though it had been
>> changed by a real mechanic about 16,000 miles ago. So, I ordered an A/C,
>> Power Steering, and Alternator belt so I could change all belts.
>>
>> Before removing the belts, I noticed that the water pump, alternator belt
>> did not seem to line up perfectly. The pulley for the water pump is closer
>> to the front of the van than the engine pulley or the alternator pulley.
>> In
>> fact, the outer lip of the water pump pulley seemed to line up almost with
>> the inner lip of the engine pulley. After removing the belts, I checked
>> the
>> end play in the alternator and the water pump pulleys and everything seems
>> really tight with no wiggle in the pulleys.
>>
>> After replacing all belts, the water pump/alternator belt (ContiTech AVX
>> 10X1110) twists and kicks off the pulley. So, I know I either did
>> something wrong, or something is wrong on the van.
>>
>> Facts: Coolant has been religiously changed every two years since the van
>> was new. During a fix of a leaking head gasket at about 75,000 miles, I
>> had
>> a new German built water pump installed. The van now has 116,000 miles.
>> No
>> coolant leakage around the water pump.
>>
>> Can anyone give me some advice on what to check and how to check it. Be
>> easy, I am not a mechanic, just someone who is learning.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> --
>> Harold & Faye Teer
>> 1991 Westy
>> Harrisonburg, VA
>>
>>
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> --
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> Crescent Beach, BC
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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