Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:38:09 -0400
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From: Steve Cotsford <cotsford@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gasoline
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Just for your interest, with my tdi Golf (nonPD) I get about 700 miles to a tankfull on summer diesel fuel.?? The other day it cost me $70 to put in just?about 16 galls.??That is not pleasant! ?I figure that is 10 miles to the dollar.? With my 86 diesel Volvo (4sp +o/d) I get 6 1/2 miles to the dollar.
Steve, in SC
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Foss - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Tue, 27 May 2008 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: Gasoline
Awesome that you made to Yosemite !?
and Los Banos is sure not a place one would want to be buying gas i?
suspect- price wise.?
I dislike carrying any fuel in a gas can of board of?
course...........but what comfort knowing you had a gallon say stashed.?
and .......if traffic will allow it..............you drop down the about?
35 to 42 mph, drive in very high gear at about 12 % throttle, and you?
cuuld squease out 28 mpg on a gasoline vanagon.?
?
at 14.1 you were down there all right.?
Pumping a 2WD Vanagon tank bone dry on purpose, like to remove it from?
the van, i've gotten way over 2 gallons out of them after the gague was?
on 'zero-nothing.'?
Does yours do this - I've had this a few times, in two vanagons I can?
think of.............when the gague needle gets to the top of the?
red.........?
it swings a bit.............one minute it'll show top of the?
red.........a few minutes later it'll be a good couple of needle width's?
above top of the red.?
?
21.5 is decent mileage.?
talk about what fuel prices 'were'..........?
in the mid 90's..........diesel was $ 1.48 per gal.?
I had a 5 speed 1.9TD GL Vanagon, with a 10 gal aux tank.?
Several times i went 600 miles on the odometer with that total fuel?
load, and refueled..............like after 615 miles - for $ 28.00 !!!?
Not too shabby,?
?
Sorry to go on - am inviting everyone, including diesel people, to?
calculate miles per dollar. That's what *really* matters after all.?
?
Say my turbo volvo sedan, Inga.................say she gets 20 mpg on?
4.00 dollar per gallon gas- that's 5 miles per dollar.?
Just running #'s in my head..............I can show that a TD vanagon?
getting 26 mpg on $ 5.00 per gallon fuel..............is only doing 5.2?
miles per dollar - barely better - though you can sleep and cook in the?
TD vanagon !?
( but a gasoline vanagon or Westy at 20 mpg at $ 4.00 gallon is doing?
the same miles/dollar as that 740 turbo volvo sedan, but then the?
Vanagon can't go just 80 anywhere, and not blow around in the wind?
either ! )?
?
My all time record btw..........in the 70's.................I put 100?
dollars into an envelope, and drove a 56 VW Bus ( probably mid to high?
20's mpg ) all around Nevada and down to North Rim of the Grand Canyon?
etc, until that 100 bucks was gone .?
This hardly sounds believable, but i have it in my head that i went?
3,300 miles on that hundred bucks..........or maybe ti was 2,300 - that?
sounds better- it was 1973, the first gas crisis, and fuel was?
..................under a dollar for sure........?
but i got t 23 miles per dollar at least - my all time record, and?
probably never to be exceeded by something you can sleep and cook in, or?
carry a ton of junk in.?
?
glad you made it to a gas station !?
what relief ! oh please, please just be open, I almost don't care what?
it costs, I just need that precious go juice !?
?
Do you happen to know btw, if your California gas is 10 % ethanol like?
all our Oregon gas is now ??
thnx,?
scott?
www.turbovans.com?
?
David Kao wrote:?
> 3 weeks ago I nearly ran out of gas on my way back out of Yosemite?
> on HWY 152 at Los Banos. The gauge was bottomed out. When the needle?
> passed bottom edge of the red zone on the gauge I was still 12 miles?
> from the next gas station. I thought I blew it and would have to pull?
> over waiting for who knows what aid would come to rescue me.?
>?
> Fortunately I made it to a gas station. The bill was $56. I pumped?
> 14.1 gallon of gas into the gas tank. The gas mileage of the trip?
> was 21.5 MPG. That included going up to and coming back down?
> from Yosemite with nearly a full tank of gas. A full tank of gas?
> in 1984 was around $10 only.?
>?
> David?
>?
> --- J Stewart <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> wrote:?
>?
>?
>> <I'm just?
>> 'shocked' that I can put over $40 in a VW bus... I'd have been more?
>> shocked if I'd have had to pay for that other 6 gal too.>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>> Get used to it-in a few weeks that $42.00 will seem like a bargain! After Natural Bus next?
>> weekend I probably won't be venturing further than 50 miles from home in the Westy for the rest?
>> of the summer. Jeff?
>>?
>>?
>?
>?
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