Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 06:42:12 -0400
Reply-To: Jay Brown <badkarma@TTLC.NET>
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From: Jay Brown <badkarma@TTLC.NET>
Subject: Re: 2nd try - Bostig 2nd Gen Zetec Kit
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Hi Scott,
Looks like we emailed a couple times in early January. I am the guy who
wasn't going to drive his van in the winter, but the need to use my new toy
won out over common sense, so I decided that I just wouldn't drive it when
there was salty slush on the roads. Seems like a fair tradeoff to me...
The price and availability of the Zetec is one of the reasons I chose the
Bostig conversion. I looked this morning and there are 108 Zetec 2.0L DOHC
available in Oregon right now on car-part.com. The fact that the Focus is
such a plentiful and affordable car that many drivers seem to get as their
first vehicle certainly appears to keep a fresh supply of low mileage donor
engines coming in.
If Jeff in Washington is the guy I think he is, he actually did the install
himself. I know this because I helped him with a couple questions about
what he would need for his conversion. Perhaps he was simply stating that
to have the conversion done by a professional installer would run about $10K
(which is still a bit high considering the simplicity of the install).
I am definitley planning to use the Bostig upgrade system. I think the
ability to affordably upgrade to the latest and greatest versions of the
conversion is a stroke of genius on Jim's behalf.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Foss - Shazam [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:26 PM
To: badkarma@ttlc.net
Cc: Vanagon
Subject: Re: 2nd try - Bostig 2nd Gen Zetec Kit
Hey Jay.........thanks for chiming in.
when did we 'speak' ? .........or write.
The one i can remember right now is last Dec or so one guy repsoned to my
comments abut 'where are they all ' buy saying his zetec vanagon was in a
snow bank for the winter.
That wasn't you was it ?
87 Octane- nice to know.
Well the engines sure are cheap ! Nothing else with the technology comes
anywhere near 450 bucks with only 10,500 miles on it.
So you were driving for $ 5,000 after getting the kit, the misc parts and
putting it all in yourself ?
No complaints about that.
thought the other guy today said his was $ 10.000 to be driving after
paying a shop to do the work.
your fuel price is fine basically - 3.89 per gal of reg.
in Alaska it's in the high 4's right now i believe.
Are you planing to take advantage of the program for getting some credit
when you turn in your 1.0 version kit and upgrade to the 2.0 ?
i'm sure i read about an intention at least to have that program in place
for version 1.0 people.
thanks for your comments !
scott
Jay Brown wrote:
Hi Scott,
Actually that wasn't the first "in person, in real time, actual" report
you had heard about the "near mythical" Bostig Zetec Conversion, we emailed
back and forth a few times about mine last November/December. I am pleased
to report that after several thousand miles on my conversion I am 100% happy
and have experienced zero problems with any part of the Bostig setup.
I am currently getting 19-21 MPG with 87 Octane fuel running the "Power"
tune on my Bostig v1.0 install. I could certainly do a bit better on
mileage if I tried to, but I tend to let my right foot get the best of me
most of the time since I did the conversion.
There is no need to go to higher octane fuel with the Zetec unless you
are running the supercharger or the turbo. Of course if you wanted to run
ethanol instead there is a tune available for that as well. It would
probably take me about 30 seconds to load the E85 tune with the SCT
reflasher.
Regular unleaded in NH this morning was $3.89 at the 3 stations in my
town.
The new v2.0 setup is definitely the cats pajamas. I will most likely
be upgrading mine to the new setup when the upgrade kits become available in
a few weeks. Not that I really need to, it's just way too cool not to...
I think it has already been cleared up, but the total cost for the new
Bostig v2.0 kit is $4,175.00. This includes all of the conversion hardware,
but does not include the following:
Engine - Zetec 2.0L DOHC (2000-2004) - Mine was $450.00 with 10,500
miles.
Alternator - $50.00
Power Steering Pump - $40.00
My Bostig conversion took me about 15 hours to install working alone and
came in at a little less than $4,900.00 total including all fluids and new
serpentine and timing belts, which were too cheap and easy not to do while
the engine was out.
Enjoy,
Jay Brown
'85 Zetec Westfalia
'72 Riviera
http://www.geocities.com/vwcamper72
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:34:34 -0700
From: Scott Foss - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: 2nd try - Bostig 2nd Gen Zetec Kit
great Jim, I like the sound of this.
but I am also currious, as Bryan asked................... what fuel
milege can be expected ?
oh, and on what fuel too please -
regular, mid-grade, or premium. ?
what is your regular there price any way ?
here it's right at $ 3.99 per gallon, and it's 10 % ethanol.too.
scott
turbovans
Southern Oregon
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