Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 07:52:26 -0700
Reply-To: Dave Mari <vw4x41987@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Dave Mari <vw4x41987@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Battery Woes/Choice
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Frank,
I have had great results with running two secondary 80 amp hour G/N/B Marathron batteries. I had one in the rear behind lights and under the cabinet, now have both in the spare tire carier under the front. I also have used the 155 A/H G/N/B Marathron battery with great results. They are just built well and last.
Dave,
Syncro - Westy - Zetec - 200 Amp Alternator with ECU Control Charging
--- On Fri, 5/23/08, Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote:
From: Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Battery Woes/Choice
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 5:09 AM
In a message dated 22/05/2008 10:05:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:
I've been spending a lot of time lately charging, testing and retesting
reserve battery capacity of my odyssey 1200. As one person mentioned last
week,
the best thing about odyssey batteries is their advertisement;)
In terms of reserve capacity (AH) I"m told the better way of determining
actual AH rating is to take the reserve time (in mins) x 25 amps and divide
this
figure by 60. In the case of the odyssey that's about 33 AH. It's
rated at
44AH. That figure assumes you're going to run the battery all the way down
to
11 volts or less, which from what I've learned is not a good thing to do--
at
least if you want your battery to last any length of time.
The figures I've heard are ideally 50% discharge, but as much as 65%. A
resting voltage of no less than 12.2 or so. I just did a test last night
running
my Vitrifrigo C51 for about 13 hours. The best I can figure, this
refrigerator runs about three minutes out of every 10, so I rounded that off
to 20
minutes out of an hour. That works out to about 11.2 AH. In theory, the
odyssey
battery should be able to handle that, but my resting voltage this morning
was at 11.8. This does not even include lights, stereo or my Atwood furnace
that I need to run. I'm thinking I probably now need a 100AH or better
auxiliary
battery.
So, looking for some options here:
1:) I can simply flip a switch that I have installed and link together my
starting battery and reserve battery. The danger of courses is running the
starting battery down too much and being stranded.
2:) install a second battery and link it to the odyssey under the rear bench
seat
3:) Buy a whole new 100AH capacity battery and install it under the rear
seat and eliminate the odyssey or use it as a starting battery.
Since all my wiring is now behind the rear driver's seat, I'd like to
do
this as painless as possible.
So, suggestions for a good battery to buy, whether it be a simple flooded
style that would not be deeply discharged or go with one of the expensive
optimas or other AGM's. I'm located in Alaska, so shipping is a
consideration as
well.
I think I've heard more than one person using a standard flooded battery
with good success, purchased at Sears or Wally world for quick exchange if
needed.
I need to get something done quickly here, so any help would be appreciated.
While I love this new refrigerator, it has definitely caused share of
problems with battery usage!
Troy and any others interested in this subject. I have said this before and
here I go again. I use, have used and continue to use, for myself and all
my customers, a Group 41, 42, 48 or 49, standard automotive battery as the aux
battery under the drivers seat. I prefer the Kirkland battery from COSTCO
because, first it is $82.35, price including taxes, paid last week at COSTCO
in OTTAWA for a Group 41. Secondly because it is guaranteed, no questions
asked, no tests, for 3 years. And thirdly that guarantee is good at ALL
COSTCO
locations in Canada, USA and Mexico. I spent this past winter in Mexico,
5-1/2 months, _ZamoraBlog_ (http://poolio.net/zamorablog/) , stealth camping,
using my aux battery, solar panel charger, WAECO 12v ~ 120v fridge setup,
radio, lights and the battery is still performing flawlessly. BUT, when it
grows
week, as it will certainly do, I will just drop into a COSTCO and exchange
it for a new one and keep on truckin'. This is my plan until someone
comes up
with a proper deep cycle battery of good AH rating that fits in that hole
under the drivers seat.
Cheers,
Frank Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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