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Date:         Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:10:58 -0700
Reply-To:     Stuart MacMillan <macgroup@COMCAST.NET>
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From:         Stuart MacMillan <macgroup@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity?
              NVC
Comments: To: Florian Speier <groups.florian@gmail.com>
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The EU is driving R134 phase out because of global warming. I don't know what's supposed to be next.

Stuart

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From: Florian Speier [mailto:groups.florian@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:05 PM To: Stuart MacMillan Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com Subject: Re: any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity? NVC

nope, r22 is being phased out too. that is an old refrigerant for residential applications. didnt know r134 is phased out though.

george: you can buy an ac manifold and vacuum pump at harborfreight. if its on sale otr you have a coupon, the manifold is usually $30 and the pump is $10. you need a big compressor to run it though.

florian

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Stuart MacMillan <macgroup@comcast.net> wrote:

Your Dodge uses R134, and you should get it with oil already in it. You also need a vacuum pump to recharge the system after it's been opened. So unless you have the gauges and pump, just take it to an AC shop.

Your Vanagon uses R12, which was phased out in 1995. You'll have to go to a shop for that, or you will burn a hole in the ozone! :-( R12 has high value, since it's not produced anymore, so most shops will take it out at no charge.

And whopeee, R134 will be phased out in 2010! Then comes R22 I think. I can't keep up. What is the owner of an old car to do?

Stuart

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of George Wietor Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:32 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity? NVC

I am replacing the AC compressor on my 2000 Dodge Caravan SE 3.3 liter. The Haynes book for this car, the compressor fact sheet and NAPA are not able to to tell me exactly how much PAG oil to include. The MFR says to keep the factory assembly oil in the compressor after assembly. FYI, this will be a dry run to someday rehabilitating the Vanagon /Subaru conversion in my driveway. TIA George '87 Van O'White in damp Grand Rapids.


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