Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:02:58 -0700
Reply-To: Neil2 <vidublu@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Neil2 <vidublu@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Dometic condensation drain
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Mine has the mini cube tray. Makes me chuckle. Germans.
On 6/3/08, Stuart MacMillan <macgroup@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> In cold weather moisture can condense in the system, and Dometic
> installed a tube to let it drain out. The newer Norcold I have now in my
> EVC doesn't have a drain. If the flame runs long enough, it will evaporate
> the condensation. It's short term use that causes problems with propane
> operation.
>
>
>
> I could easily freeze mini ice cubes, even up to 95 degrees ambient temp.
> That's with the cute little trays almost no one has anymore, set on top of
> the fins. But what good are ½" ice cubes anyway? The Norcold freezes
> everything near the fins on propane if I'm not careful with the setting.
>
>
>
> Check this out for more info:
> http://www.rvmobile.com/Tech/Trouble/cooldoc.htm
>
>
>
> Basically, it's about heat, and the 12v heater has much less heat (watts or
> BTUs) output than propane.
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Neil2 [mailto:vidublu@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:29 PM
> *To:* Stuart MacMillan
> *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> *Subject:* Re: Dometic condensation drain
>
>
>
> A drain for the 'flame box'? Why, pray tell?
>
>
>
> I thought I read where an owner had the same cooling levels with all three
> modes of op. What temp does your Dom reach on 12v?
>
>
>
> On 6/3/08, *Stuart MacMillan* <macgroup@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> It isn't a drain for the fridge, just the flame box. You've got to sponge
> that out, and leave the door open for awhile to let it dry out.
>
> If you are getting down to freezing, that's about as good as it gets! 12v
> is just to keep it cold while driving. But usually you can have the
> propane
> on instead if it is really hot outside.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Neil2
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:04 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Dometic condensation drain
>
> This is very interesting. I just spent a week in my '82 Westy and noticed
> it works great on propane, much better than expected. Too good, possibly.
> Once it was down to near freezing. Same as Jim's, the pilot blows out with
> any vehicle speed. It seemed to not work on 12 volts so I'm planning to
> investigate that next.
>
> Didn't even know it had a drain plug but after seeing the murky water in
> the
> bottom this morning (we unloaded the remaining food last night) I
> immediately thought of 'draining'. The Bentley is all I have so could one
> of you tell me where this drain plug is located?
>
> On 6/3/08, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Another thing about changing the amount of air coming in... placement of
> > the
> > tip of the flame under the evaporator is critical to proper operation.
> The
> > way the dometic unit was designed, the "offset" of the flame by the
> moving
> > air that feeds it is calculated into the design of the unit. More or less
> > air than the unit was designed for puts the hot tip of the flame other
> than
> > where it was intended.
> > Jim,
> >
> > (whose fridge runs great but has never run more than 50 feet while
> moving).
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Daniel O Stevens <dosteven@syr.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Leaving it open could induce a 'draft' from the interior up the chimney
> > > flue.
> > > Certainly while motoring down the road.
> > > This would create turbulence in the combustion chamber and can very
> > > likely cause the pilot/flame to be blown out.
> > >
> > > The combustion intake & exhaust are in the very near same place on the
> > > outside of the van body to reduce chances of an atmospheric pressure
> > > differential which would create an excessive draft and blow out your
> > > fridge flame.
> > >
> > > It is the close proximity that allows it to remain lit during driving.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan Stevens
> > > Empire State VW Camping Club
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: Keith Ovregaard <kovregaard@GMAIL.COM>
> > > Subject: Re: WHat is this for
> > >
> > > You got me curious about whether the drain plug should be always be in
> > > place or not, so I looked it up in the VW manual and the Dometic
> > > manual. Interesting that nothing was mentioned in the Dometic manual.
> > > The camper manual only mentioned "To drain accumulated water due to
> > > normal condensation, open the screw on the condensation drain pipe."
> > > I would assume that in normal operation you should leave the plug in
> > > place. I've always left mine open! Now I wonder what, if any,
> > > performance difference there would be. It also said that the flue vent
> > > must be kept uncovered at all times and only when you wash the camper
> > > or when using an automatic car wash should it be covered. It makes
> > > sense that it should be off during operation of the fridge, but why
> > > would they say "at all times"?
> > >
> > > Keith O
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neil
> '82 Diesel Westy
> Peace of
>
>
>
>
> --
> Neil
> '82 Diesel Westy
> Peace of
>
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Neil
'82 Diesel Westy
Peace of
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