Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:32:04 -0400
Reply-To: pickle vanagon <greenvanagon@GMAIL.COM>
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From: pickle vanagon <greenvanagon@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Better MPG or snake oil - baking soda voodoo
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The idea must be that the overal combustion efficiency is increased, not
just that you're also burning the hydrogen. So you put in X energy to split
the water into H2 and O2, get almost X back by burning the hydrogen, but
also get an efficiency boost in the burning of your regular gasoline, which,
I guess if big enough, could make a significant difference.
At this point, I don't believe in it. The water4gas site just sells books,
not actual devices. If this thing was real, somebody could put together a
high-quality set of kits for a few common vehicles, get a bit of positive
press, and with some good word of mouth, make a total fortune. You'd be
hearing about it from your neighbors and seeing it on national TV, not
hearing about it every 6 months or so over the Vanagon list---at least
that's my guess. I realize the oil companies would not be into this
development, but the conspiracy can only reach so far... word would still
get around!
Of course, its possible that this is the real deal and what I'm talking
about just hasn't had time to happen yet. In that case, it should happen
within a few weeks, at most. So, I'd rather wait around for a few weeks and
see if it really is a big deal, rather than spend $100 for a book that is
almost certainly not going to teach me how to build a useful fuel-saving
hydrogen cell for my vanagon.
I just drive slow.
-Wes
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Stuart MacMillan <macgroup@comcast.net>
wrote:
> See www.water4gas.com
>
> It's supposed to electrolyze water into hydrogen and oxygen in the 2:1
> ratio
> that burns and releases the maximum amount of combustion energy. The law
> of
> electrolysis says it always takes more energy produce H2 and O2 than is
> produced by their combustion.
>
> So, I don't see how this can work, but I may build one and find out.
> Google
> "brown's gas" for more info.
>
> Remember cold fusion!?? This may be another joke.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Chris S
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:15 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Better MPG or snake oil - baking soda voodoo
>
> Has anyone heard or tried the baking soda/water injection that supposedly
> saves fuel? What's the trick behind it if it does in fact work? It would
> be nice in our not-so-efficient Vanagons (Mandatory Vanagon Content).
>
> Chris
>
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