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Date:         Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:17:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Engine braking with a turbo...
Comments: To: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
In-Reply-To:  <2972.192.168.0.115.1213062269.squirrel@hasenwerk.homeip.net>
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Speaking of a butterfly valve, or 'throttle' in the intake.......... I know where there is a perfectly sized on right on a diesel engine already that could be adapted.........especially if welding aluminum inake manifold parts - Mercedes diesels. For sure, at least the 240D four cylinder has a throttle butterfly in the intake manifold.

re 'just having bigger brakes' .................. Brakes and using them to slow down - pure wasted energy of course. Re-gen braking is so obvious, but then you need an electric motor to be able to take care advantage of the juice produced with braking. ( just think how exciting a huge long descent would be then - it's like free gas !! - yahoo ! ) ................ and.............most interestingly I think.........in Formula 1 racing........I believe it's for the 2009 season...........Re-gen braking is allowed and encouraged even. it's so obvious a source of energy too.................a moving mass has a ton of inherent energy ...............we most definitely should be turning that energy into something that can be used to provide propulsion too. ( Suddenly cities will grow in hilly areas !! , and flat landers will complain that it's not fair ) Right now we are just throwing away energy in the form of heat and brake pad dust when we touch that middle pedal. Try driving with ever using your brakes...............it completely changes your driving style, and save a lot of gas too. .

It probably will all be 'gas-electric' or diesel-elerctric hybrid pretty soon. and...........the Plug in gas-electric hybrid................that you can also plug in at home and charge the battery off the grid or off your solar panels......... those can get in the 200 mpg range in local use. I heard some guy converts Prius cars to plug-in capability and gets that kind of millage in town.

man- the first "Dino fuel-electric Hybrid Vanagon or Syncro....................now THAT is something to get excited about !! And imagine the torque you could hove off road too ! Full motor torque right from zero rpm ! scott www.turbovans.com

David Marshall wrote: > Was talking with these guys this afternoon - they insisted that any > vehicle with hydraulic valves should not use an exhaust brake... > > David Marshall > > http://www.hasenwerk.ca > Box 4153, > Quesnel BC, Canada V2J 3J2 > > Engine Conversion FAQ - > http://www.hasenwerk.ca/faq > > On Mon, June 9, 2008 18:19, Roger > Whittaker wrote: > > http://www.pacbrake.com/index.php?page=prxb-exhaust-brakes > >> try >> > these guys ... > >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:56 PM, David >> > Marshall > >> <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> >> wrote: >> >> >>> I have been looking for a solution for my Syncro >>> > Westfalia with it's TDI > >>> and my LT 4x4 with the 2.4L I6 for >>> > an exhaust brake. I have been in > >>> contact with several >>> > vendors of these systems and all tell me that won't > >>> work and >>> > are really not recommend for Volkswagen because they have > > hydraulic lifters and the back pressure will cause the valves to rise > >>> and >>> then hit a piston... >>> >>> Besides running massive brakes, is there >>> anything >>> > else I can do to get some engine braking? Perhaps a > > butterfly valve on the intake system along with a blow off valve to > >>> ensure >>> there isn't massive turbo spike? >>> >>> I was sort of looking for that >>> nice >>> > braking sound going down a hill... > >>> David Marshall >>> >>> >>> > http://www.hasenwerk.ca > >>> Box 4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J >>> 3J2 >>> >>> Engine Conversion FAQ - >>> > http://www.hasenwerk.ca/faq > >> >> > > >> -- >> roger w >> There are two kinds of jobs in >> > the world: > >> Picking up garbage and telling people things. >> Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw) >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> View the growing list of video work at: >> >> > http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners > >> and ... older work at >> >> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7135104650374818257 > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259745150182742364 > > > >


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