Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:33:04 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: for those who use wireless on the road ... opps who knew
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this is the entire list link
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tr/downloads/home/dl_10_laws_computer.pdf
but more to the point ...
the persons crossing the border (that would be me )
just by the act of requesting permission to visit the usa in my westfalia
i am giving permission to DHS to search my laptop
so any downloaded programs that are ripped might be considered reasonable on
their part to disallow my visit
they could even confiscate my westfalia ...
my point in sending this information along is to alert those of us who are
traveling cross border often
that the laws in usa are different from canada and even state to state
it would pain me greatly to read a posting that decried the seizure of all
personal goods at the border
and yes they would likely take the vanagon as well ..
not just the offending laptop ...
i like visiting the states .. and my american wife likes to as well ;o)
yours
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Loren Busch <starwagen@gmail.com> wrote:
> RE: Open WiFi and the law, etc.
>
> I would expect that it would be very hard to prosecute on this. Setting up
> an open unsecured wifi net, especially by a commercial establishment like a
> restaurant, is like saying "Here I am, open to all, use me". And what
> constitutes a customer? Customer today, last week, tomorrow? If they
> don't
> want people to sit in the parking lot and use the net it's simple to
> password protect. In the case of the guy that was arrested here in
> Washington, IIRC, he was a repeat offender that had been warned and ended
> up
> being arrested when he continued to park in front of the establishment and
> use their network.
> But. to avoid possible problems (you might win in court with a good lawyer
> and $20k in attorney fees) there are plenty of public nets open. Try the
> local library in small towns. Or, if using a coffee shop or restaurant
> connection, go in, sit down, buy a sandwich.
> Another thing to keep in mind is spoof networks, set up to catch the
> stealth
> user and capture personal information. Don't know if that is a modern
> urban
> ledgend or that it has actually happened but it sure is possible.
>
--
roger w
There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
Picking up garbage and telling people things.
Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw)
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