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Date:         Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:47:09 -0700
Reply-To:     Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pondering new commuter car (FRIDAY ONLY TOPIC)
Comments: To: Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@mac.com>
In-Reply-To:  <C146173B-75AB-49F3-A2BF-9326AAAE8071@mac.com>
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My first and only observation is...

If I only got 80K on a vehicle, I don't care what age... the next car I bought would not be from the same manufacturer.

I drive them hard, I drive them till they drop. And they better have 150K on them before I get tired of taking care of them. Minimum.

Git yerself a Toyota.

tim in san jose

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@mac.com> wrote: > So, I was cruising back from work in my Corrado (automatic) and > realized that I probably really should start thinking about a > different commuter car. My Corrado has been nicked several times (and > repaired) and some of it's wiring chewed on by animals (and repaired). > But...15 years and a few things are beginning to add up (vents spew > out the remains of the foam rubber, cruise control doesn't work, and > with 80K miles on it, I probably should be getting a timing belt.) > > So I decided to browse the new car market a bit. What I want is a > sporty looking little car, preferably with 4 wheel drive, manual that > gets decent gas mileage (my Corrado get about 22mpg, though I've > gotten as much as 30 mpg on flat terrain (MD Eastern Shore). So > something between 24-30+ mpg would be what I'm shooting for. Manual by > preference, but auto tolerable. All for $30K. (Dream on....) > > Jag X-Type would have been nice, but they discontinued it. > > The VW Eos is intriguing, but the looks (inside and out) aren't quite > right, plus I'm not sure you can get 4wd with it. > The VW R32, I can't get over the revised looks (which I hate). I took > me a while to like the Golf 4, but this new style is just plain ugly > in my opinion. > > Volvo C70 is similar (hardtop convertible) > > Audi A4/S4/RS4. Pricey. and the fuel economy is pretty bad. The TT's > styling leaves me wanting more. > > Lotus Elise/Exige. Snifty, but no 4wd (and even more pricey). > > Subaru WRX STI. Hmm, revised looks I like. 4 door with a fairly roomy > rear seat. Subaru has improved their interiors a lot since I last > looked. But the fuel economy isn't up to snuff (23 hwy on the > 2.5turbo). Might have to consider one of the lesser WRX models, though > I like the styling on the STI better. > > Mitsu Lancer Evolution. Even poorer fuel economy > > Looks like the Mazdaspeed isn't offered with 4wd in the U.S. of A. > > BMW 328xi BMW had lovely styling in the 90s. They must have hired a > lot of ex-Japanese auto-stylers in recent years. Not pretty. They also > get you on all the lovely add-on packages, otherwise the base models > are fairly affordable ($35K). Unfortunately there is no 135 model with > all wheel drive. > > Mercedes C300 4matic. Again, base model (black paint/black non-leather > interior) is only $35K. Everything else starts upping the price tag, > sigh. > > Porsche Carrera 4? Way too expensive. > > Mini? Isn't my idea of sporty >

-- Where ever you are, there you be. Unless you're driving my van, in which case, you ain't got there yet.


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