Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:09:08 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: A friend bought a NEW Camero Z28 in the midst of the first
oil crisis
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Actually guys.............
Vanagons get GREAT fuel milage for WHAT THEY WILL DO !
particularly a camper of any sore.
Look how good 20 mpg ( gas ) or high 20's to low 30's ( diesel ) looks
to a typical RV driver !
The same adventure, more fun,
and 2 or 3 times the mpg !!
In all cases.........if you are using a van where a car would do, you're
burning more fuel than you need to.
but if you are hauling stuff, or people, or camping ..............then
the fuel needed is very justified.
And...........
there are not many half ton vehicles that can this kind of millage AND
you can layout fully and sleep in them, or cook in them, even live in them
.I consider Vanagons the near ultimate survival vehicle among fuel
burning rigs.
'Everybody knows' that more supply won't really make the price go down.
the price is basically political.
it's been amazingly inexpensive actually over the years, considering the
effort and expense it takes to get that juice to the pump at the gas
station.
And ..........interestingly .............look at all the things that do
need subsidizing or bailing out - or they are a lot of bankrubcies -
airlines, the post office etc......many systems operate at a loss, but
not the oil industry !
It IS the age of oil and the age of the car - but that's ending. it's
the Age of the Electronics now starting to really get going.
We're super lucky we can even drive still.
scott
www.turbovans.com
Jim Felder wrote:
> Roger, I am concerned for the poor vanagon as well. I have two of them in my
> driveways. But I know that the only way this is going to work is if I drive
> them less. I just got back from the store on my bike, as I do nowadays for
> my health and strength as well as the gas it saves, and I was SHOCKED at
> some of the prices I saw. It could have been avoided. We have had so many
> chances over the years, and all I see are political directions to
> things--like ethanol, and now this dumb***ed drilling rampage--that need
> economists and scientists calling the shots, not oil-state governers and
> vote-pandering candidates.
> And BTW, Reagan was not only talking to the Iranians when he said he wasn't,
> he was selling them arms to get the money to stir up trouble in south
> america when congress wouldn't give it to him.
>
> Right after you posted this morning about the immediate effect of the
> president jawboning down the price of gas, oil went up five bucks. So much
> for that.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Roger Sisler <rogersisler2000@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
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>> The way I see what Bush is doing, is that you don't actually have to do
>> anything to get the price of oil down, and it needs to come down now. Only
>> need to make people think that you are going to do something. A side
>> benifit
>> to actually doing something. Beats what anyone else has done. If the
>> investors that are speculating on the oil think the balance between supply
>> and demand is going to change, they will sell on the rumor. Thats what
>> investors do. They will find someplace else to put their money. Nobody has
>> been able to do that so far. I just don't know how people are going afford
>> heating oil this winter, and I feel sorry for those folks. The price of
>> diesel fuel is $5 without the added competition of heating homes with it.
>> My
>> groceries are 20 percent higher in just a couple of months. Not the 5.5 the
>> CPI says. These people on the margins won't have the money to buy oil this
>> winter,and there are a ton of them. I have never voted republican ,but I
>> liked what he did. Believe me, I am reluctant to give a republican credit
>> for doing anything. My thoughts were of the Iranian hostages and how Reagan
>> dealt with that situation. He didn't talk. Been done earlier and didn't
>> help. The Iranians released the hostages the day he came to office because
>> they feared nukeage. Gas prices need to come down now for America.
>>
>> Sorry list, for the content here today, but I am concerned for the Vanagon
>> as it doesn't get good gas mileage. Wanted owners to maybe see a trend of
>> lower gas prices coming. I think it will now happen, and I am glad. Lots of
>> luck.
>>
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