Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:51:16 +0000
Reply-To: rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET
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From: Todd Last <rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Thinking of switching to Gas.? (response from digest mode)
Not much Vanagon content
You are making a fatal error if you are assuming that smog rules in California make sense.
Remember the mandated 'low poluting fuel' which contained carcinogen MTBE and caused vehicles to get 1-3 mpg LESS.
Lets not forget the governor's changing the existing law to mandate smog testing for vehicles older than 25 years old. Negligible change in polution - but it looked good for the environmental groups.
California's smog rules are steeped in politics, not common sense.
I know, I used to live there.
Todd
'88 Westy
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson@GORGE.NET>
> A rhetorical question about California and it's very restrictive emissions
> policies.
>
> What's up with these guys down there? How come they've got such a hard-on
> for diesel vehicles? In the rest of the world aren't well over 50% of all
> vehicles in service diesel powered? In the E.U., where "Green" is more
> than just slogan the oil companies are using in their TV ads, most people
> drive mostly diesels; cars and trucks that aren't allowed into the US
> because of the influence of the Calif. Air Resources Board (same guys who
> stepped in to kill the electric car, at the behest of the
> corporations......fascists?) California passes a new 'standard' (while some
> of their rules are SO ridiculous, like: it's OK to drive your Humvee to the
> store, but you can't ride your Honda 50cc motorcycle unless it has a "Green
> Sticker"?) and the rest of the states see it and soon try to copy it..
> Watching the 24hr sports car race in France yesterday... ("Le Mans", in
> 'American) the first 6 racecars were diesel powered..actually running on a
> mix of Bio-diesel. They (diesel powered vehicles) work well, they are said
> to pollute less and yet they are legislated against, mainly in
> California..As Cali goes on auto emissions, the rest of the states usually
> follow along..
> This CARB group..Why can you put a Kennedy Engineering Subaru 2.2 motor
> into a Vanagon, but not a 2.5 Subie? Or maybe sometimes the 2.5 is OK and
> sometimes Not.. Why do they have issues with swaps that clearly pollute less
> than the original engines?
> "Not on the Approved List" Shouldn't they be concerned more with the
> total amount of pollution a particular vehicle produces rather than the
> amount of paperwork you can show to the test station fellow? The worst
> running Geo Metro probably emits 1/100th the amount of crap of a Prevost
> Motor Coach...yet the motor coach has few emission restrictions and the Geo
> Metro is carefully scrutinized and flunked by the testers if you have
> anything not original on that little POS...My SO's Yamaha Zuma scooter
> smokes like crazy (it's a two stroke) but it is legal in California...while
> my 1.8 gas motored inline Van is probably illegal..yet much cleaner running
> than most vehicles..
> Weird..
> Vanagon content: If you live in California and decide to swap a diesel
> vanagon motor for a gas powered motor...Which way will the CARB react
> stupidly? Will they fail you because you've got a diesel? Or will they
> fail you because you changed motors to one that isn't "approved"?
> Dunno..but I suggest moving to Nevada..getting plates then going back home..
> Don Hanson
>
> From: chris jackson=20
> To: Diesel-Vanagon@yahoogroups.com=20
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:42 PM
> Subject: [Diesel-Vanagon] ca smog
>
>
> Dose anyone know if Ca is stating to check diesel now? I'm thinking of =
> picking up an 82 d that now has an 1.8 gas.
>
> Chris
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