Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:26:09 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: photo... illiteracy: examples from replies
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Actually Roger, yours are the most ignored posts because of your inability
to cleave to any sentence structure.
If you can't be bothered to shape your thoughts for readability, I can't be
bothered to wade through them.
Byenow
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>
wrote:
> dear studentry of the english language et al
>
> first ...
> > Pricey.
>
> ALWAYS remove a final e from a word before adding any suffix. If "torquy"
> looks awkward, so what?
>
> both are considered correct ... APPLE Spell Widget says so ...
> my wife with american university masters says so too
> (but we refer to Apple to adjudicate all disagreements)
> (we have several style manuals in the house but chicago is too big and
> strunk is under it)
> (the canadian style manuals are on order)
>
> second ...
> many countries are on this list ... (i hail from Canadia ;o)
> north america is made up of three continental ties to three nations and
> oceanic ties to one
> (france (w/ st pierre & miquelon )
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon
>
> so it would not be out of order if i were to revert to my mother tongue and
> commence to include grammar from the language Breton
>
> third ...
> email is somewhat more like a conversation rather than a written letter ...
> article or story ...
> the parentheses used are often to note a digression in the speech ...
> much like an aside would be offered in spoken word
>
> when i write an article .. story or professional letter i submit same to my
> editors ..
> (one i am married to and one i work with)
> they happily make me look better ...;o)
> all of these mediums have different tokens that make them operate better in
> different environments ...
>
> second to lastly ...
> i am always amazed that how a mass produced vehicle like the Volkswagen Van
> (type 2 - etc... ) with Westfalia interior can have no two alike
> or at least very few alike ... the inlets are often in different
> locations... (just for example)
> there are as many nuances to the van as there are people who own them ...
> i grew up in a region that sent people to the hostible if they fell off the
> slippy roof while cleaning their chimilly
> if you really want to move your grammar up a notch... advance your self to
> read ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Flesch
> then go to your computer open word >open options> choose the edit grammar
> tab> choose to show readability statistics
>
> take note of whose readability statistics those are ...
>
> lastly ...
> (Really)
> enjoy all the variations of writing available in lists like these
> make your professional work impeccable on web pages ... blogs ... letters
> to
> others
> and remember that form will never become from and then will never have
> happened in juxtaposition with than ...
> no matter how many times you run spell check ...
> unless the readability statistics box is checked ...
>
> yours
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Andrew Grebneff <
> andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
>
> > I'm impressed that, having read several replies to my posting, none have
> > shown selfrighteous indignation. The subject is entirely relevant to the
> > list.
> >
> > In my experience even dedicated scientists have problems with punctuation
> > and spelling.
> >
> > > Waht is the big dael aobut snplleig on the Vgoaann lsit? The hamun mnid
> > > can furige out prttey mcuh any wrod as lnog as the wreitr dseon't
> > > srecw up the fsrit and lsat crcteraahs.
> >
> > Words can indeed be worked out from context, but often punctuation
> cannot.
> > These things are NOT unimportant... our entire written language depends
> on
> > them, and one incorrect punctuation-mark can utterly change the meaning
> of
> > a sentence eg "What's that on the road ahead?" and "What's that on the
> > road, ahead?" (and at this point addition of a period to end my sentence
> > is problematic... triple punctuation, anyone?
> >
> > Note that dictionaries ans spellcheckers are only as good as their
> > authors!
> >
> > Of course typos don't count, but:
> >
> > > Uhhh, you'd be amazed at how many CEO's...(70's)...
> >
> > Er... what do the CEOs and the 70 own?
> >
> > > Its not just spelling Jeff, but the complete lack of structure in
> > > peoples'
> > > emails.
> >
> > It's not just spelling, Jeff, but the...
> >
> > > Yeah well I said "important letters, etc."
> >
> > Yeah, well, I said "important letters etc".
> >
> > > I agree it's spelling, grammar, punctuation, and sentence structure.
> > > However, we also have to consider each of us has our own strengths.
> >
> > I agree that it's spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure.
> > However we also have to consider that each of us...
> >
> > > Maybe you should find someone else for that task. (e-mail., writtne,
> > > submited).
> >
> > .. someone else for that task (e-mail, written, sumitted).
> >
> > > ...and some of it's wiring chewed on by animals...
> >
> > its. It's means "it is".
> >
> > > Pricey.
> >
> > ALWAYS remove a final e from a word before adding any suffix. If "torquy"
> > looks awkward, so what?
> >
> > > An evolving language is the equivalent of grammar by the lowest common
> > > denominator, no? And think I actually had to learn English as a
> > > second
> > > language the correct way. What was I thinking!
> >
> > Well said! Languages do of course evolve; however corruption is something
> > else entirely.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> roger w
> There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
> Picking up garbage and telling people things.
> Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw)
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>
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Jake
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