Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:45:14 -0700
Reply-To: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
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From: dylan friedman <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Syncro bad handling problem
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Tom,
Great suggestion.
JP
If there is a race team near you, they will have scales for all four wheels and can give you a readout of how much weight per wheel the van is showing. In a Westy with all that yours has, it would be good info. to have and help set the suspension up to react the way you want it to according to weight over each wheel.
Try finding SCCA racers or fast and furious kids who work on the modified street racing cars, they will have it. If you can't find that look for any shops with a chassis dyno. They should have the scales or know where to find them locally. Longacre is the company that makes them.
dylan
----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Forhan <fourwdvw@YAHOO.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:21:59 PM
Subject: Re: Syncro bad handling problem
I'd certainly go weight it, front and rear ends, just out of curiousity. Quarries, moving companies, garbage transfer stations, its pretty easy to find a nearby truck scale.
--- On Thu, 6/26/08, JP <jpbeauch@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> From: JP <jpbeauch@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Syncro bad handling problem
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 9:52 AM
> Volks,
>
> Some of you already answered Ben regarding my syncro
> handling problem and I
> thank you for it. Most of you seems to agrees thaht the
> syncro has a weight
> problem. I'm not so sure that a liitle bit more wods
> cabinet would make such
> a difference in the weight at all. Plus I'm not the
> only syncro having a
> custom interior (look like the Reimo one) and the Gary Lee
> tire rack and
> ladder...
>
> Keep also in mind that The Old Man Emu shock are new (a
> year) as well as the
> coil spring which I bought from syncro.org.
>
> So let say you are right and I must change the shock and
> the coil spring. I
> know that gowesty ones are stiffer but what about the
> shocks? Are they any
> others ones stiffer then the OME on the market? If so where
> to get them?
>
> Oh.... and Ben though part of the bad handling problem was
> my big tire so I
> changed all five of them for what Hans form Vanaru
> suggested me (Yokohama
> Geolander LT215/75R15
>
> If you have any others ideas beside changing the shock or
> and the coils i'm
> all listening
>
> Thanks
>
> JP
>
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
> <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:01:47 AM
> > Subject: Syncro bad handling problem
> >
> > Hey all, i'm stuggling to find an handling problem
> on a customer van. So i
> > wonder if any of you ever had that problem.
> > Van oversteer dangerously wile turning at speed over
> 40mph, loose rear end,
> > rear want to go in front when turning It's almost
> scary sometime.
> > The van is HEAVY, i can barely lift this one on my
> electric lift in the
> > shop.
> > It's also very sensitive to wind.
> >
> > Condition: Big Syncro, custom interior (heavy), of
> course, big tire :-)
> > Rear tire rack, ladder in the back, 2.5 Subi, new
> shock and spring on all
> > wheel, no loose or play anywhere (of i can see), front
> stab bar is fine.
> > The spring are not from GoWesty but from another
> reseller, i just don't
> > remember the name.
> >
> > I thought about a rear trailling arm bushing problem
> but i see no play at
> > all. This problem just happen lately, i mean i
> didn't like the handling of
> > this van last year when i did some stuff on it but now
> it's worse than
> > ever.
> >
> > Here is the van (tire where replace):
> > http://www.benplace.com/jp_syncro.htm
> >
> > van look very similar and as now the same tire as the
> Syncro that i
> > restored
> > lately:
> > http://www.benplace.com/87_syncro2.htm
> >
> > I know, it's not much and it's dificult to
> give advices when you don't feel
> > and see the problem but maybe some of you had a
> similar handling problem???
> >
> > Any info would be appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers, Ben
> >
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