Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 02:33:55 -0400
Reply-To: Scott <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: why sell it? just scrap it. youll make more money.
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Sure, and you're coming here for this process ? <BR>
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">On Wed Jul 2 23:20 , Neil2 <vidublu@gmail.com> sent:<BR>
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</vidublu@gmail.com></span><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(245, 245, 245); margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px;">Scott,<BR>
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Re: And i'm happy to help people fix and maintain their vanagons too.......<BR>
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I just bought an '86 Vanagon and it needs a thorough going over<BR>
(inspection/maintenance/repair/replace) and I need someone to give me a<BR>
crash course in Vanagon maintenance.<BR>
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Can we schedule a day or so to do it together?<BR>
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Neil2<BR>
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On 7/1/08, Scott Daniel - Shazam <<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('scottdaniel@turbovans.com','','','')">scottdaniel@turbovans.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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<span style="color: red;">> Regardless of any of that, they are great very versitile, useful,</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> fixable vehciles - Vanagons are ............and they get fine mileage</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> for what they can carry and do. Whether haouuig stuff, or people, or</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> camping in it, or even living it - lot of van , german van</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> even.............for what they are.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">></span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> 84's in particular seem to bring 'nothing almost.' Except for campers</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> of course.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I got one ..............I was told it was an 86.............and I</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> asked............'like what - 300 bucks ? .......and the guy say yes'</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> ..........</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I drove by, glanced at it - yep ........looks like an 86 ...........OK,</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> fine.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> Running too. No leaking heads either.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">></span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I've never done this in my whole life - when the guy arrived with it, I</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> just told him where to park it. I never even listened to it run or</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> anything..........</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> figured it was well worth it for the parts if nothing else.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">></span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I look at it a little bit, and see that it's an 84 GL with retangular</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> headlights and late 'vanagon' trim on the back...........</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> So I ask for 50 bucks back.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> 250 for a running 84 .......and I didn't even have to test drive it or</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> go get it !!</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I named it the Yard Dog, and I use it around my shop to haul gravel for</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> landscaping and road improvement, ............pull other vanagons</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> areound..........whatever.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> Lot of good van there if you know at all how to care for them.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">></span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> you talked about scarp.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I think of the parts ..........I just bought an 87 Wolfsburg- has every</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> goodie - jump seats, cruise control, central locking ........fiberglass</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> bumnpers and the rear one is pretty goood too..................( not</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> running, overheated and half disassembled by an idiot ) ............but</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> the parts are worth more than the van itself, and with just an engine</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> and some care..............could be a fantastic deluxe vanaong. I got</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> most of a set of the exact correct real Vanagon tires too on it.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">></span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I think it's great fun to resore and refurmbish them back to full health.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> real soon I'll be having some camper vanaogns ready to sell.........and</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> tuned and restored to the max too, like ready to leave for alaska.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> all fun !</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">></span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> 'the problem' is a shortage of people that have the time, knowledge,</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> resoureces and skills, and perhaps money to take care of them really right.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> and they are NOT hard to fix or take care of really well. Getting some</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> shop to make it run right when it's say, having a fuel injection glitch</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> ............that CAN be hard to get............or people that have real</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> jobs and don't work on them full time, or have several parts vans to get</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> parts from - it's harder for them to really do justice to these fine</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> vehclies..........</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> .............but, there is a ton of life left in them ! The stay</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> amazingly valid in the current automotive world.........being 20 years,</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> or more, old too.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> And i'm happy to help people fix and maintain their vanagons too.......</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I wonder how many there really are say, in North America.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> must be really a lot.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> and it makes me sick to see something like a 90 Carat that's not smashed</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> or rusted, being parted out in a junkyard, ........and just briefly too</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> - just whatever sells quickly- then crush it for scrape. You can't get</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> them back after that..........</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> and for the overall blend of what the vhecile is...........they are darn</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> good. More modern stuff might get better mileage, or have ABS brakes,</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> or better aeriodyamics............but you can't work on them as much</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> yourself, they don't have generaou ground clearance.........etc. etc. etc.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> I'd like to have an anti-scraping bumper sticker for Vanagons.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">> scott</span><BR>
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<span style="color: red;">> <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('JordanVw@AOL.COM','','','')">JordanVw@AOL.COM</a> wrote:</span><BR>
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<span style="color: red;">>> yea its a sad day when you can get more for a vehicle by scrapping it out</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> then selling it with issues..</span><BR>
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<span style="color: red;">>> scrap metal is way up.. the highest its been ever.. guys are trolling</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> the</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> neighborhoods with trucks and trailers, hauling cars out of peoples</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> backyards</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> or wherever, and just scrapping them, running or not. i stopped a guy on</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> the way to the scrapyard with a '90 audi 200 turbo on his trailer.. the</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> car</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> ran and drove, but had a leaky PS rack. he said he can get $700 for it</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> at the</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> scales just by scrapping it..</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>></span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> amazing. it took me forever to sell a rust-free '84 sunroof van i had,</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> for a measly $400 when in reality i could have gotton almost twice that by</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> just</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> hauling it to the scrapyard where they wouldnt have given a flying fark if</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> the</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> heads leaked or not.</span><BR>
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<span style="color: red;">>> "but your doing it for the love of the hobby" meh.</span><BR>
<span style="color: red;">>> reality bites you in the ass.</span><BR>
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<span style="color: red;">>> chris</span><BR>
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Neil2<BR>
'82 Diesel Westy (Duckie)<BR>
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