Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:15:01 -0700
Reply-To: The Westy man <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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From: The Westy man <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
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Chris,
Just go ahead and start doing it. You will see what fits and what not.
Follow the principles you already know. It is simple really.
Zoltan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
> My '84 has 170K miles on it.
>
> The complete engine I have, exhaust in mint condition and all cooling
> bits,
> is from an '89 with 89K miles on it and known good history.
>
> So all the parts I have are 5 years newer and have 80K fewer miles on
> them.
>
> Does that help?
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> sottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>> still don't get your logic. sorry.
>> all i know is that TWENTY YEARS of typical miniman care is results in a
>> vanagon that has dozens of tired things on it.
>> it's what I see on almost all the vanagons I get. Takes me a long time to
>> get every last little thing lubed or rust-treated or whatever.
>> The vans are worth it though.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:06 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
>>
>>
>> Since you asked... 1984 + 5 = 1989
>>>
>>> They didn't stop selling Vanagons in the US until 1991, no?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
>>> sottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> except for the hose that goes above the auto trans bell housing on
>>>> waterboxer vanagons.......
>>>> their hoes are not the weak part at all !
>>>> Especially the bigger hoses- there are tons of them over 20 years old
>>>> working just fine.
>>>>
>>>> can't figure how you got your '5 years younger' number.
>>>> an 85 Vanagon with 1.9 wbxr engine is 23 years old.
>>>> an 86 with 2.1 engine is only 22 years old.
>>>> etc.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
>>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:08 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or the solution with the newest parts? The cooling hoses, however
>>>>
>>>>> numerous,
>>>>> on the 2.1L are 5 years younger.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Stuart MacMillan
>>>>> <macgroup@comcast.net
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The only advantage to doing this is that you can keep the oil cooler
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> the 2.1 comes with, which was not installed on the 1.9. But you'll
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> exhaust system from a 2.1 as well. On my '84 years ago I installed
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cooler and filter remotely after tapping the 1.9 water pump (the 2.1
>>>>>> pump
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> different) for hose fittings, and using a bypass plate with braided
>>>>>> SS
>>>>>> lines
>>>>>> from Earl's Garage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Others on the list just left it off with no trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider all these decisions on this project as a variation on
>>>>>> Occam's
>>>>>> Razor--the solution with the fewest assumptions (i.e., parts) is the
>>>>>> best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> Chris S
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:12 PM
>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>> Subject: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I jumped in with both feet first. I have COMPLEAT 2.1L engine
>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> my garage - coolant lines, coolant distributors, coolant crossover
>>>>>> lines,
>>>>>> coolant burp lines, and any other kind of lines, FI stuff, intake,
>>>>>> alternator, vacuum lines and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CAN I.. without losing many limbs in the process, make my COMPLEAT
>>>>>> 2.1L
>>>>>> cooling system hook up to my '84? I'm looking at Bentley.. and it
>>>>>> appears
>>>>>> that with some minor tweaking I just might be able to pull it off...
>>>>>> OR
>>>>>> AM
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> CRAZY?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. You'll see a few more silly question from me over the next few
>>>>>> weeks,
>>>>>> possibly with pictures, so please bear with my enthusiasm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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