Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:02:19 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: It works AND it's a scam Re: Water 4 Gas. com Does it work?
Has Anyone Tried it? Know of It?
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Very nice Jim. Thoroughly researched and clearly delivered. Its the Bostig
Way.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Jim Akiba <syncrolist@bostig.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I went over to the website and had a look. I got a kick out of this
> whole thing, it's a clever mis-direction... yeah exactly as the term
> is used in magic tricks. The first part is getting you to suppose the
> evaluation is "Is it a scam? Or does it work?" If you said that to
> yourself reading this thread tonight, you're already trapped. That
> means all I need to do is show you that it works, and you will believe
> it is NOT a scam. As you know from my subject like this is indeed a
> scam, AND it works. Here's how:
>
> On the website, you'll find the "Minimal System - The Secret Formula
> They Don't Want You to Know"
>
> This is as Ozzie states: "ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you need to start SAVING
> FUEL in your car:" Ozzie Freedom being his full name, Eyal Siman-Tov
> being his real name via google, apparently he's an israeli IT guy by
> profession.
>
> The "Minimal System" is these three things:
> 1. The Electrolyzer produces Brown's Gas: Hydrogen & Oxygen for your
> engine,
>
> 2. The MAP Sensor Enhancer tunes your computer to maximum fuel economy.
>
> 3. Several formulas given, mainly based on Xylene (Xylol) (some
> also with Acetone). Xylene can be obtained cheaply from hardware
> stores (paint department) and helps to atomize the fuel so it can be
> broken easily into smaller particles. This enhances combustion and
> saves much more money than it costs.
>
> Now.
>
> This combination of things can indeed give you some noticeable
> increase in MPG, but it has nothing to do with the HHO mayo jar(#1)..
> it's a red herring.
>
> A MAP(Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor is a sensor that measures the
> pressure of the intake manifold. Used in conjunction with rpm, air
> temp, and barometric pressure it is used to calculate how much air is
> entering the engine. Based on this information, the engine computer
> meters fuel to target either stoich(short for stoichiometric or 14.7:1
> air fuel ratio for gas, which is emissions ideal) in "closed loop"
> operation, the loop being closed by feedback from an O2 sensor, or
> target Air fuel ratios contained within the Open loop fuel tables.
> The important thing is if you affect the map sensor output, you can
> fool the ecu into thinking there is less air entering the engine. That
> is what device #2 on the "Minimal System" does. The #1 device is still
> sitting in your car somewhere distracting you and your friends.
>
> So now we've fooled the engine into running lean, so what else tends
> to happen when one runs an engine lean? Knock. Knock is when the
> fuel/air mixture in the chamber explodes, normal controlled combustion
> is not an "explosion" because the flame front(which is exactly what it
> sounds like) moves outward from the ignition source through the
> mixture cloud slower than the speed of sound. Knock/Detonation is bad.
> It raises combustion pressures and temps high enough to cause damage.
> High octane fuel suppresses the tendency to knock. It burns slower,
> and pushes out the knock threshold by slowing the flame front. Xylene
> is an octane booster. Anyone else see where this is going yet? The
> last two are what get the real world boost in MPG, and the same idea
> can be applied to any vehicle, with a slight variation if it isn't MAP
> equipped... but similar piggybacked units can re-scale the air meter
> input no matter the type to the same effect of fooling the ECU. If you
> were to add enough Xylene and your engine management has knock sensor
> advance capabilities(the ECU will advance spark above the borderline
> knock spark tables when it is not seeing knock) which are not
> uncommon, it would have very similar effects to race gas and
> increasing spark advance deliberately. Advancing spark (to a point)
> will yield increased fuel economy as well.
>
> So would it work? Sure would, especially if you have an old/dying MAP
> sensor, when they get old they tend to send you rich... so. Say you
> were running 20% rich from an old MAP, then you add the #2 device and
> not only correct the rich condition, but lean it out an additional
> 15%.. boom a real world actual measurable increase in MPG of a
> whopping 35%!! Throw in another 10% for different gas pumps,
> inaccurate speedos, or just plain mis-calculation and WoW!! AWESOME!!!
> 45% jump in MPG!!!! And it is awesome because it's kinda true. But
> it's not awesome for the reasons anyone thinks it's awesome.
>
> Similar to the electric superchargers on ebay at times. I mean the
> tiny computer fan setups.. they don't do anything. But if you read the
> feedback they have customer after customer praising the nice increase
> in power they got and how happy they are. But again, nobody understand
> that it's the removal of the factory airbox/paper filter and
> replacement with a cone filter that comes with the "supercharger" than
> is causing the uptick in power. So again, it works AND it's a scam.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jim Akiba
>
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Jake
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