Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:58:04 -0700
Reply-To: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Alternative fuels
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You can always get a mule or ox to pull your Tristar.
Robert
1982 Westfalia
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Kim Springer <kimspringer@RCN.COM> wrote:
> From: Kim Springer <kimspringer@RCN.COM>
> Subject: Re: Alternative fuels
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:25 PM
> Here's some Vanaogn content, but very bad Vanagon
> content:
>
> Everyone keeps thinking in terms of a carbon based
> (burnable) solution to
> the cost of fuels. There are two challenges facing us, all
> of us! 1) gas
> costs a lot and will only cost more. 2) we can't keep
> destroying our
> environment.
>
> This means we have to come up with a way to run our
> vehicles on sun or wind
> or geothermal, or we need to abandon our vehicles all
> together.
>
> It's gotten to the point, for me, that every time I buy
> another additional
> part for my Tristar, I think, "why am I investing in
> this thing? Lately,
> I've been telling myself that I can keep the truck and
> just use it on the
> weekends for errands, hauling stuff, etc., but during the
> week, I need an
> alternative that doesn't burn gas and cost a lot to
> run.
>
> Anyone else out there starting to get this same nagging
> feeling?
>
> Kim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Keezer"
> <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Alternative fuels
>
>
> > I'm surprised the oil robber barons haven't
> bumped the guy off yet.
> > Think of this- the home of the future may very well
> have algae curtains.
> >
> > A ebay buyer came by today driving a Rabbit Diesel on
> his own homeade
> Biodiesel. He built his own processor for $1,000, and his
> fuel costs him
> about 65 cents a gallon to produce.
> > Smelled good too.
> >
> > Robert
> > 1982 Westfalgaeia
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, David Beierl
> <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
> >
> > > From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
> > > Subject: Re: Alternative fuels
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 7:45 PM
> > > At 09:44 PM 7/18/2008, John Rodgers wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html
> > >
> > > Now *that* looks like something with serious
> possibilities.
> > > I'm
> > > truly impressed with the device, and it should be
> pretty
> > > cheap to
> > > build, considering. I believe they have some
> real
> > > engineers
> > > there. And they have a one-acre pilot plant
> running, hope
> > > to get
> > > 180,000 gallons/year out of it. And projecting a
> > > production cost of
> > > $25/bbl, too, for vegetable oil. If they even
> come close
> > > to meeting
> > > it will be a very fine thing.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Beierl - Providence RI USA --
> > > http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/
> > > '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage,"
> '85 GL
> > > "Poor Relation"
> >
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