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Date:         Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:43:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject:      It works AND it's a scam Re: Water 4 Gas. com Does it work? Has
              Anyone Tried it? Know of It?
Comments: To: robertmstewart@mac.com
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Hi Guys,

I went over to the website and had a look. I got a kick out of this whole thing, it's a clever mis-direction... yeah exactly as the term is used in magic tricks. The first part is getting you to suppose the evaluation is "Is it a scam? Or does it work?" If you said that to yourself reading this thread tonight, you're already trapped. That means all I need to do is show you that it works, and you will believe it is NOT a scam. As you know from my subject like this is indeed a scam, AND it works. Here's how:

On the website, you'll find the "Minimal System - The Secret Formula They Don't Want You to Know"

This is as Ozzie states: "ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you need to start SAVING FUEL in your car:" Ozzie Freedom being his full name, Eyal Siman-Tov being his real name via google, apparently he's an israeli IT guy by profession.

The "Minimal System" is these three things: 1. The Electrolyzer produces Brown's Gas: Hydrogen & Oxygen for your engine,

2. The MAP Sensor Enhancer tunes your computer to maximum fuel economy.

3. Several formulas given, mainly based on Xylene (Xylol) (some also with Acetone). Xylene can be obtained cheaply from hardware stores (paint department) and helps to atomize the fuel so it can be broken easily into smaller particles. This enhances combustion and saves much more money than it costs.

Now.

This combination of things can indeed give you some noticeable increase in MPG, but it has nothing to do with the HHO mayo jar(#1).. it's a red herring.

A MAP(Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor is a sensor that measures the pressure of the intake manifold. Used in conjunction with rpm, air temp, and barometric pressure it is used to calculate how much air is entering the engine. Based on this information, the engine computer meters fuel to target either stoich(short for stoichiometric or 14.7:1 air fuel ratio for gas, which is emissions ideal) in "closed loop" operation, the loop being closed by feedback from an O2 sensor, or target Air fuel ratios contained within the Open loop fuel tables. The important thing is if you affect the map sensor output, you can fool the ecu into thinking there is less air entering the engine. That is what device #2 on the "Minimal System" does. The #1 device is still sitting in your car somewhere distracting you and your friends.

So now we've fooled the engine into running lean, so what else tends to happen when one runs an engine lean? Knock. Knock is when the fuel/air mixture in the chamber explodes, normal controlled combustion is not an "explosion" because the flame front(which is exactly what it sounds like) moves outward from the ignition source through the mixture cloud slower than the speed of sound. Knock/Detonation is bad. It raises combustion pressures and temps high enough to cause damage. High octane fuel suppresses the tendency to knock. It burns slower, and pushes out the knock threshold by slowing the flame front. Xylene is an octane booster. Anyone else see where this is going yet? The last two are what get the real world boost in MPG, and the same idea can be applied to any vehicle, with a slight variation if it isn't MAP equipped... but similar piggybacked units can re-scale the air meter input no matter the type to the same effect of fooling the ECU. If you were to add enough Xylene and your engine management has knock sensor advance capabilities(the ECU will advance spark above the borderline knock spark tables when it is not seeing knock) which are not uncommon, it would have very similar effects to race gas and increasing spark advance deliberately. Advancing spark (to a point) will yield increased fuel economy as well.

So would it work? Sure would, especially if you have an old/dying MAP sensor, when they get old they tend to send you rich... so. Say you were running 20% rich from an old MAP, then you add the #2 device and not only correct the rich condition, but lean it out an additional 15%.. boom a real world actual measurable increase in MPG of a whopping 35%!! Throw in another 10% for different gas pumps, inaccurate speedos, or just plain mis-calculation and WoW!! AWESOME!!! 45% jump in MPG!!!! And it is awesome because it's kinda true. But it's not awesome for the reasons anyone thinks it's awesome.

Similar to the electric superchargers on ebay at times. I mean the tiny computer fan setups.. they don't do anything. But if you read the feedback they have customer after customer praising the nice increase in power they got and how happy they are. But again, nobody understand that it's the removal of the factory airbox/paper filter and replacement with a cone filter that comes with the "supercharger" than is causing the uptick in power. So again, it works AND it's a scam.

Hope this helps,

Jim Akiba


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