Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:30:18 -0700
Reply-To: Anthony Egeln <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Anthony Egeln <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Alternative fuels
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Except that most of the big natural gas deposits are off-shore...it isn't just oil that is off-shore, and the off-shore natural gas deposits are still currently banned from exploration.
I live in a Florida beach community, but I'm all in favor of off-shore drilling now as a STEP approach toward achieving energy independence with alternative fuels that will be 10-30 years in coming. We need the petro fuels now so that we can buy the time necessary to get us out from under the yoke of foreign oil producers.
Anthony
'89 Syncro GL (Hidalgo)
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET> wrote:
From: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Alternative fuels
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 12:32 AM
David Beierl wrote:
> At 09:44 PM 7/18/2008, John Rodgers wrote:
>
>> http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html
>
> Now *that* looks like something with serious possibilities. I'm
> truly impressed with the device, and it should be pretty cheap to
> build, considering. I believe they have some real engineers
> there. And they have a one-acre pilot plant running, hope to get
> 180,000 gallons/year out of it. And projecting a production cost of
> $25/bbl, too, for vegetable oil. If they even come close to meeting
> it will be a very fine thing.
>
>
> --
> David Beierl - Providence RI USA --
> http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/
> '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage," '85 GL "Poor
Relation"
>
>
I think all this talk about opening up the coast for offshore drilling
is bogus. It's all about getting politicians kudos - making it look like
their are doing something. Fact is we need an "Alternative Fuel"
Manhattan Project - not a bunch of oil drilling. heck, we don't even
have the capacity to process all the oil that can come from the offshore
drilling. It's crazy. In the time it takes do drill and get the oil
delivered - it will take ten years minimum. In ten years we could have a
viable alternative fuel and not have to drill for a rop of oil - for
fuel at least. Of course we use oil for many more things besides fuel.
Fuel drives our economy, so an alternative is essential. But we could be
off oil for fuel in ten years easy. Even without some magic alternative
fuel - we have enough natural gas to fuel our civilization for untold
decades to come, and natural gas can be used to fuel our transfportation
needs. And that is available now.
John Rodgers
88 GL Driver
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