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Date:         Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:25:58 -0700
Reply-To:     Kim Springer <kimspringer@RCN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Kim Springer <kimspringer@RCN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Alternative fuels
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Here's some Vanaogn content, but very bad Vanagon content:

Everyone keeps thinking in terms of a carbon based (burnable) solution to the cost of fuels. There are two challenges facing us, all of us! 1) gas costs a lot and will only cost more. 2) we can't keep destroying our environment.

This means we have to come up with a way to run our vehicles on sun or wind or geothermal, or we need to abandon our vehicles all together.

It's gotten to the point, for me, that every time I buy another additional part for my Tristar, I think, "why am I investing in this thing? Lately, I've been telling myself that I can keep the truck and just use it on the weekends for errands, hauling stuff, etc., but during the week, I need an alternative that doesn't burn gas and cost a lot to run.

Anyone else out there starting to get this same nagging feeling?

Kim

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Alternative fuels

> I'm surprised the oil robber barons haven't bumped the guy off yet. > Think of this- the home of the future may very well have algae curtains. > > A ebay buyer came by today driving a Rabbit Diesel on his own homeade Biodiesel. He built his own processor for $1,000, and his fuel costs him about 65 cents a gallon to produce. > Smelled good too. > > Robert > 1982 Westfalgaeia > > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > > > From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> > > Subject: Re: Alternative fuels > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 7:45 PM > > At 09:44 PM 7/18/2008, John Rodgers wrote: > > > > >http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html > > > > Now *that* looks like something with serious possibilities. > > I'm > > truly impressed with the device, and it should be pretty > > cheap to > > build, considering. I believe they have some real > > engineers > > there. And they have a one-acre pilot plant running, hope > > to get > > 180,000 gallons/year out of it. And projecting a > > production cost of > > $25/bbl, too, for vegetable oil. If they even come close > > to meeting > > it will be a very fine thing. > > > > > > -- > > David Beierl - Providence RI USA -- > > http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ > > '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage," '85 GL > > "Poor Relation" >


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