Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (July 2008, week 4)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:         Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:02:29 -0700
Reply-To:     David O'Shea <DOShea@GEOMATRIX.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David O'Shea <DOShea@GEOMATRIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Least Steep Passes over the Sierra Nevadas? (for a stock
              Vanagon Westy)?
Comments: To: Michael Hart <mjhart853@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  A<166489.16449.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

3 weeks ago I took a 1.9l diesel Westy over Sonora Pass from west to east without incident. That's Highway 108 from Sonora in the western foothills up and over to Bridgeport in Inyo county. I don't know the grade relative to the other Sierra Passes, but I managed it with an occasional reduction of my top speed to 20 mph in the steepest spots near the summit (9,624 ft.). My coolant temps were medium high, about 2/3rds of the way to the red zone, but stable (radiator fan screaming on high speed). The outside temperature was in the high 70s in the mid-morning.

I can tell you that Sonora Pass is spectacularly beautiful, so you won't mind taking it slow and easy. Let me also give a plug to Bodie State Park north of Mono Lake near Bridgeport. It's a really interesting Ghost Town now protected by the State.

If you really want to experience steep and slow, try Berthoud Pass in Central Colorado at 11,307 ft. I did that one also on my recent trip and it had us down to 12 mph in 2nd gear (5-speed trans), with slight smoke plume of unburned diesel trailing me as I reached the summit.

-Dave O'Shea

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hart Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:29 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Least Steep Passes over the Sierra Nevadas? (for a stock Vanagon Westy)?

I am planning a round trip loop through the Sierras in California starting next week (starting from the San Francisco Bay Area) The Sierras have gradual gradients going East, but coming back West is a different story. Last year I took Highway 4 (Ebert's Pass) both ways (most convenient for our planned destination), but the West direction is VERY steep (25% for the last mile close to the summit), so I was down to 1st gear in my fully loaded Westy (temperature gauge running at the high side on a very hot day > 100F and strange sounds coming from the engine/transmission). Also, the approach to Ebert's Pass from Highway 395 over Highway 89 (Monitor Pass) was pretty steep too. No apparent damage to the engine or transmission and since then I've had VolksCafe completely rebuild the cooling system (new radiator, stainless pipes, etc, etc.) [btw - great work by Peter at VolksCafe!], so I'm not too worried about overheating, but I'd rather not stress the engine so much again. Hence I will NOT be taking Ebert's Pass West again and need an alternate route.

I've tried to find out the gradients of the other major passes, without success.

So to my question - can someone tell me how steep Highway 88 (Carson Pass) is going West from the Lake Tahoe area? (I've driven this before, but not recently or in my Westy, you don't notice the hills quite so much in our other car, a 2.8liter V6 VW Jetta...). Any other ideas for the 'least steep pass' over the Sierras?

Thanks, Mike '87 Westy (stock 2.1l) '97 Jetta GTX (2.8l VR6) '00 Cabrio GLX


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.