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Date:         Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:04:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Man,  I am backing up now...on the light install..
Comments: To: Don Hanson <dhanson@GORGE.NET>
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hi Don, did you see my post about what kind of relay you really need, and that no part of the high beam voltage can should be part of the load circuit for the new lights ?

Did that make any sense to you.........what I wrote ? Did you look at the wiring diagram in Bentley first ?' it's a little confusing........ but look at page 97.56, current track 37 and 38, the 'headlight, flahser dimmenr switch" ..........that's the stalk on the steering collumn.........( never can spell that word ) sends power to fuses 5 & 6 to turn on the high beams.

that's where you will get your 'trigger signal' from the high beams. BUT.............are you following me, that you only want to use that signal.............say from fuse # 5 to 'turn on' the 5 or 6 terminal relay I described ealier , and not for the actual load the new big lights will be carrying ?

are you following me on this ? I was hoping to see an example of the type of relay I'm talking about in the wiring diragrams, but I don't.

you are looking to accomplish this : one, power goes to the new lights ONLY when both high beams and the new light switch are energized or on. two...........the load fuction...........the actual high current that powers the new lights flows through neither the swithc or the high beam circuit. you can accomplish that with a relay as I described, or two 4 terminal relays I think, but describing it is confusing so I'll stop here. But back up the where you were........... and get back to a base line of it's working stock like it should, for a first step from here. scott www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hanson" <dhanson@GORGE.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Man, I am backing up now...on the light install..

>I really don't do well when it comes to "fixing" any electrical stuff on my > vehicles. I'm trying to install some KC lights into my 84.. > > Now, my high beam indicator light stays on regardless. It worked ok > before. I put a spade terminal onto the fuse connection for the indicator > light (High beam) thinking I would run that to the auxiliary light switch, > which in turn I hook up to the relay that will control the power to the > extra lights...So only when the highs were on would that auxiliary light > switch have any current to it to power the relay... > Just for fun, I re-connected the battery and the stinkin high beam > indicator light comes on..Key on, key off lights on lights off..no > difference...steady high beam indicator... > So, I recalled that is an indication my headlight switch might be bad > now...I happened to have a new one so I replace that...Still the stupid > indicator light is on...What the? I removed all the extra wire > connections > I messed with and still the indicator...The lights work fine...anybody > care > to advise? > Man, every time I try some electrical 'improvement's to any vehicle, I > end > up costing myself about a day of time and all kinds of frustration..Why > the > heck would the indicator light be on? Somehow I crossed some circuits > somehow...but I've cut out all the added wires I can and as I said, > replaced > the headlight switch with a new one... > Help! > Don Hanson


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