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Date:         Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:22:29 -0700
Reply-To:     Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: From rags to westy in a week.
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <BAY125-F36D1C78736A6F019832957A0780@phx.gbl>
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dear all regarding the brass monkey ... i mean brass wrenches ... nearly 7 years of work in several different refineries has got me always thinking of explosions when dealing with older installations and stuff with LEL and yes ..i understand that all approved propane fittings are brass, copper, plated, or something to keep them from sparking. but- when working on a series of vehicles that are already >15 years old ... most do not have the new generation quick connect propane hook up any sort of great weirdness could have been jury rigged together by previous owner and those not conversant in propane approved hardware ... might not know ... i certainly would not fully understand everything i was looking at in the propane assembly -specifically what was westfalia factory and what was jury rigged -if it were not clearly different so my note was simply one of caution ... the USA based Injury Board claims domestic propane tank explosions are a major source of personal injury in the United States each year. i have also seen more than my share of ... "It was never supposed to happen like that ..." accidents and incidents in workshops and sites- simply my own over whelming need to imbibe the oft over looked aspect of safety when dealing with our westies yours

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:

> You definitely need to be careful that the propane is under control. As for > the need for Brass wrenches, all approved propane fittings are brass, > copper, plated, or something to keep them from sparking. The Brass tools > only become a true necessity when working in what may be a hazardous > location and if using steel fittings. > > BTW, once a vehicle is in a garage, the lowest 18 inches is a hazardous > location. Does anyone here use XP rated drop lights and power tools? Think > of that if using one of those kerosene floor heaters for heat. > > > From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM> >> Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: From rags to westy in a week. >> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:28:35 -0700 >> >> >> dear craig >> i hope you are storing the propane tank outside and away from errant >> sparks >> while you work >> hook it together with brass wrenches ... check for leaks constantly >> use only new fittings and hoses >> be safe >> yours >> >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:40 PM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Well the weekend has passed, and boy do i have alot to show for it! I >> > started out friday night with a 1980 westy in deplorable shape, and a >> 1985 >> > vanagon with a full interior, and after only 26 hours of work (14 hours >> > saturday, only 12 today), i have a fully gutted westy, with the entire >> > interior in my garage and most of it cleaned up, a fully gutted '85GL, >> all >> > the curtains and curatin hardware has been transfered to the '85, the >> rear >> > cabinet has been cut down 3 inches and installed (It worked out great!), >> > The >> > propane tank and all the westy accessories are off and ready to go, i've >> > removed the westy floor, and the vanagon floor is recieving some holes. >> I >> > borrowed a welder today in anticipation of cutting and welding in the >> seat >> > brackets (And the one under the kitchen), have removed the rear heater >> core >> > (which will have to be relocated or negated for the time being), >> Replaced >> > all my rear seatbelts with the westy configuration, and cleaned up and >> > addressed the start of some rust behind where the fridge will sit on my >> > '85. >> > Oh ya, i also found time to pull the engine and transmission, and they >> went >> > off to a loving home. I would say a pretty fullfilling weekend as a >> whole. >> > Tommorow evening i will try to get these holes cut, the floor secured, >> and >> > start cutting/welding in the brackets that need to be addressed. I also >> > plan >> > to figure out how to mount the propane tank on the '85. I'm guessing i >> need >> > to drill some holes, send some bolts through, and weld the heads >> inplace? >> > >> > I hope to have a 'roof removal party' friday, so i need to have almost >> > everything done by then so I can gather my friends with their favorite >> > cutting instruments, to do some serious damage. So, who thinks a westy >> can >> > be built in a week? : ) >> > >> > -Craig >> > '85(Gutted) >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> roger w >> There are two kinds of jobs in the world: >> Picking up garbage and telling people things. >> Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw) >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> View the growing list of video work at: >> http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners >> and ... older work at >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7135104650374818257 >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259745150182742364 >> > > >

-- roger w There are two kinds of jobs in the world: Picking up garbage and telling people things. Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw) ----------------------------------------------------------- View the growing list of video work at: http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners and ... older work at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7135104650374818257 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259745150182742364


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