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Date:         Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:16:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Jim Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jim Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Illegible Messages
Comments: To: fitzr@SUSCOM-MAINE.NET
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Ya, I found Loren's foxed up message. Working on it.

Thanks,

Jim

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Fitz-Randolph" <fitzr@SUSCOM-MAINE.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Illegible Messages

Just trying to be helpful here. It was Chirs' gmail address where i saw the troubles.

Here is an example:

http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0808a&L=vanagon&F=&S=&P=31718

I tried it on two different XP systems with both IE 6 and 7. - Doug

On 8/6/2008, "Jim Arnott" <jr.arnott@gmail.com> wrote:

>Well... My first thought is, "We have users sending other than ASCII text?" >Why? > Then I'd go search the archives for Chris S to find an email address of >mrpolak@YAHOO.COM for that name. I'd then further refine my search and >limit it to posts from that address. There I would find 3 posts between 1 >jun 2008 and now. Then, I would pull those posts up and see if they were >readable. What I would then find would be something like: > >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:43:11 -0700 >Reply-To: "Chris S." <mrpolak@YAHOO.COM> >Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> >From: "Chris S." <mrpolak@YAHOO.COM> >Subject: FS 2.1L Waterboxer long block - ATLANTA >Comments: To: Peach State Transporters ><peachstatetransporters@yahoogroups.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >I bought this years ago from a reputable Vanagon list member with hopes of >rebuilding and putting it in my '84 Westy. It's been stored >indoors. The heads are good and have been ceramic coated by the >previous owner, hence no leaks. The rings are allegedly in need of >replacement. 270K miles on the block and much less on the heads. > >$200 -- local pickup in Atlanta or I might be talked into local delivery >for >a beer and some good Vanagon/VW conversation. > >Thanks, > >Chris S. >Now if this IS the Chris S that we are referring to I would guess that Mr. >Fitz-Randolph and others who are experiencing display issues might need to >look at their systems o determine how theil client and browser are set to >display text. Because I can see nothing wrong on this end. > >This research was done on a Windows XP box using Firefox 3.0.1 > >Mail Client: Outlook Express 6. Default settings. > >Duplicated on Macintosh G4 10.5.4, Mac Mail 3.0 and Camino browser. > >Now if it is a different "Chris S", then all of the above does not apply. >If ALL users are having this problem, then it *might* be a server problem. >If only a few, then I would tend to look at the individual client machines. > >After wasting half an hour of my employer's time, that's my thoughts. > >Jim > > > > > > >Now if this IS the Chris S that we are referring to I would guess that Mr. >Fitz-Randolph might need to look at his system to determine how his mail >client and browser are set to display text. Because I can see nothing wrong >on this end. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Fitz-Randolph" <fitzr@SUSCOM-MAINE.NET> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:03 AM >Subject: Illegible Messages > > >Hi Frank, > >No, I'm not on AOL. > >I'm reasonably sure the problem occurs when the software on Gerry >converts the message to ASCII text, which would happen when digesting or >archiving. > >I noticed messages from Loren Busch also appear illegible. > >I don't rememember who the list admin is... Jim? Can they comment on >this? Preferences for receiving email in digest form aside, I think this >has negative implications for the future usefulness of archive searches. >Maybe there is an update or patch that can be applied to the list >software or server OS. > >- Doug > >>Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:08:46 EDT >>From: Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> >>Subject: Re: Illegible Messages >> >>Doug, same problem over here and it's not just Chris's messages. I >>thought it was an AOL problem with the Digest. Are you on AOL ? > > > >>>>>Have you noticed that email from "Chris S" ends up looking like this? > >Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:51:57 -0400 >From: Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> >Subject: Re: Syncro buyers love rust? > >bCwKCkRpZCB5b3UgdHJ5IHRvIHNlbGwgeW91cnMgb24gZUJheT8gIFNvbWV0aW1lcyB0aGUg >HQgY29tYmluYXRpb24gb2YKYmlkZGVycyB3aWxsIGJyaW5nIGhpZ2hlciBwcmljZXMuIEkg >ZSBzZWxsaW5nIHRoZXJlLiAgOi0pCgoyMDA4LzgvMyBLYXJsIE11bGxlbmRvcmUgPGdyb3Vw >ZXN0eXZlbnR1cmVzLmNvbT4KCj4gSmVlenV6Li4uSSBjYW4ndCBiZWxpZXZlIHNvbWVvbmUg >ZCBvdmVyICQ0MDAwIGZvciBhIHBpbGUgb2YgcnVzdAo+IFN5bmNybyB3aXRoIGEgcG9w<<<<< > > > > >Cheers, > >Frank Condelli >Almonte, Ontario, Canada >'87 Westy & Lionel Trains (_Collection for sale_ >(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/trainsal.htm) ) >_Frank Condelli & Associates_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html) >- Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley >_Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust Systems_ >(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/exhaust.htm) >_BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm) a VW Camper >camping event, Almonte, ON, June 12 ~ 15, 2008 > >------------------------------ > > >


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