Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:26:59 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Any advice on bleeding lifters (2.1)
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The mystery is that people still buy these formulations and expect them to
transform their pathetically run-down motors. :)
"Piston Rings in a Can" & "Rod Bearing Replacement Oil" are runaway
best-sellers....
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> It did well for a while, and really seemed to get the noisier ones unstuck,
> but if the van set for a week (or sometimes less) and hadn't had the oil
> changed recently, I'd hear them for the first 20 minutes of driving. I
> bought new ones and want to make sure that I don't do something wrong by
> mistreating them. My first set went over 160K miles without giving any
> problems, I hope I get that much out of these.
> Marvel Mystery Oil. Isn't that the greatest name? Perfect American
> marketing
> BS in the legacy of guys selling snake oil to a crowd of yokels off the
> back
> of a wagon. It has this shroud of the occult, like it was pressed from
> egyptian mummies or hummingbird tongues. Does anyone really know what the
> mystery really is?
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net
> >wrote:
>
> > ...and all this time I thought Marvel Mystery Oil was the magic
> > elixir for noisy valve train issues!!!
> >
> > DM&FS
> >
> >
> > At 04:30 PM 8/6/2008, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> >
> >> Coesn't it just saw to submerge them in oil ( clean oil I'd think ! )
> and
> >> pump them up and down until they get oil into them ? .
> >> that's what I do.
> >> the really nice thing on a rebuild is brand new lifters. ( And
> >> ,............there is the old thing about never putting new or different
> >> lifters on a cam or more specifically each cam lobe..............so that
> >> might encourage some people to religeously stay with the same lifter on
> >> the
> >> same lobe in a used cam ) ..........
> >> but if that doesnt' bother you, new lifers are nice. I think they're
> like
> >> 25 to 30 bucks each .
> >>
> >> What I find is that old ones get sticky.........
> >> I've had it take months of treating the oil, and driving the van to get
> >> old
> >> used lifters back to full health so that they never get clicky.
> >> My own 2.1 engine in my 85 Wolfsburg Weekender is like that ......
> >> The lifters getting noisyh from very short periods of operation where
> an
> >> issue for months..........and once one or two got noisy, it would take
> af
> >> few hours of operation for them to quite down again.
> >> now. a year later.............they are never an issue. Must've gotten
> well
> >> cleaned out finally.
> >>
> >> I use, btw........for non-synthetic oil ...........Chevron Delo 15W40 ,
> >> and
> >> only that oil........plus hydrualic lifter cleaners, when needd, like
> CD-2
> >> -
> >> is one brand.
> >> scott
> >> turbovvans.com
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:59 PM
> >> Subject: Any advice on bleeding lifters (2.1)
> >>
> >>
> >> Bentley offers the usual rain dance for getting oil in the lifters.
> Mine
> >>> have been sitting for months as I've slooooooowly rebuilt the rest of
> the
> >>> engine, but the day is coming (hopefully soon) when I will be
> >>> reinstalling
> >>> them. I seem to remember hearing a simplified method.
> >>> Anyone?
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>
>
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Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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