Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:26:04 -0700
Reply-To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: From rags to westy in a week.
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Congrats!
Enjoy!
Neil.
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 6:56 PM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well today's progress was just astronomical. I started the day with a gutted
> van (But holes in the floor, and a few brackets welded in place. I ended the
> day with a fridge working on propane, EVERYTHING installed, and hardwood
> floors laid down. I even had time to do a little cleaning....
>
> Well by "Everything" installed, i mean everything is in place....but not
> necessarily working. I have yet to hook up all the wiring, as it's non stock
> and scary.... The plumbing is....dismal but necessary, a new pump will need
> to be procured, and since no power is going to anything, the Westfalia
> indicator panel is useless, and the fan won't engage upon the back of the
> fridge (So i can expect even better cooling once it's all hooked up!). I did
> solder in a 80mm computer fan to help the dismal fan supplied by the
> factory, and hope to add a tiny fan inside the fridge at some point.
>
> A jigsaw made the crazy shaped hole in the side a synch. I have a nice one,
> and i got some nice new blades and couldn't have been happier. It was just
> so easy, and really shouldn't be that scary to anyone thinking of doing the
> deed, as you can mess up quite a bit without anyone seeing it.
>
> I"m heading out camping in my born again vanagon tommorow, for a good shake
> down. I still need to seal up a few holes....i'm thinking of using some type
> of exanding foam to fill in the hole around the sink drain. The propane and
> water tank drain are fine, but the sink drain "protective plate" and gasket
> were useless on my donor van. Does anyone see a problem with such an
> expanding foam?
>
> I also need to produce a black door panel to go behind the kitchen. I
> installed the whole thing without a panel there as i cannot bear to cut into
> that panel which is in good shape, on my rare black interior..... So a trip
> to the hardware store for some plywood and black paint should make something
> nice. At that time i'll fill in that area with foam sheet insulation.
>
> Someone had suggested instead of welding in brackets to the floor, just to
> drill strait through and stick a nut upon the other side. I had the 3 seat
> brackets welded in, but the only other neccessary bracket for the kitchen
> unit, i headed this advice and drilled another big hole. It worked
> smashingly and saved a ton of time.
>
> The project is not yet "OVER", but i have a westy!
>
> -Craig
> '85Westy
> 1980 Rust
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> dear craig
>> ok my bad ... i had not thought it all the way through in regard to the
>> multi purpose vent exhaust
>> requiring natural flow to work efficiently ...
>>
>> -- good thing we have this list to correct the sillies form doing stuff
>> that
>> would be uncool or unsafe
>> thanks
>> yours
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Bill Glenn <idahobill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:42:16 -0700, Roger Whittaker <
>> rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >the flu for the fridge simply needs to be pointed away from the van
>> > >so sown and to the side rather than up to the side ...
>> > >and no holes in the side of the van
>> >
>> > I would have to disagree. Except when manually operating the air pump to
>> > light the refrigerator in propane mode, the fridge is not power vented,
>> but
>> > relies on natural convection. The heat produced by any of the three
>> modes
>> > of operation results in hot air flowing upward through the exhaust tube
>> and
>> > exiting through the side of the van to the outside air. Since the intake
>> > and exhaust are open only on the ends where they penetrate the wall of
>> the
>> > van, and are otherwise sealed, this same convection in the exhaust is
>> > responsible for drawing in fresh air through the intake. Convection will
>> > not occur in an exhaust tube directed downward, with the result that the
>> > fridge would likely not work in any of the three modes, but particularly
>> in
>> > propane mode, where, without convection in the exhaust, there would be no
>> > fresh air arriving through the intake for combustion to take place.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> >
>> > This flow of air will not occur if the venting is routed downward, and
>> > without it, the fridge will not work in any mode. Further, this same
>> > convection in the exhaust also results in fresh air being drawn in for
>> > combustion when operating on propane. If you think the Dometic is hard
>> to
>> > light now Interfere with this design and risk the fridge not working
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> roger w
>> There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
>> Picking up garbage and telling people things.
>> Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw)
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
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>> http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners
>> and ... older work at
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>>
>
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