Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:29:12 -0700
Reply-To: The Westy man <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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From: The Westy man <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: 2.1 running again, thanks, list!
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I have some pictures but no links. I think, I can only send it as a private
email, the list does not allow pictures to put up other than from some kind
of link way.
So, I guess, I would need your email address to be able to send it.
Zoltan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com>
To: "The Westy man" <zolo@foxinternet.net>
Cc: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: 2.1 running again, thanks, list!
> Zoltan, would you please send the link to your pictures again?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:14 PM, The Westy man <zolo@foxinternet.net>
> wrote:
>> There are several reason why I like my method. One is the simplicity of
>> letting it down on the floor or lifting it to the transmission. The
>> other
>> is, I don't have to lift the car up only one side a little and I pull the
>> engine out on the side not toward the back, on a drip tray that I made
>> holes
>> into to be able to tie ropes there to pull the engine around. It is a
>> little heavy but not too bad.
>> So, I don't have the struggle with the fitting to the transmission and
>> the
>> lifting of the car and the moving around of the engine. And it is a tiny
>> equipment, the drip tray is used anyway and it fits behind the cabinet.
>> Zoltan
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mdrillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 5:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: 2.1 running again, thanks, list!
>>
>>
>>> For lifting the back of the van higher I make my own wooden stands out
>>> of 16" lengths of 4x4 to put under the back tires.
>>>
>>> I nail 2x4 blocks on the top near each end of the 4x4. These act as
>>> wheel chocks so the van can't roll off. Then I jack up each side in turn
>>> with a floor jack under the lower control arm until the wooden stand can
>>> slide in from the side under the tire and lower down onto the wood
>>> stand. For even greater height I have some with 2x4 nailed on both
>>> sides, using slightly longer pieces sideways on the bottom for more
>>> stability. I often put a set under all 4 wheels and this is great,
>>> especially for Syncro drive train work .
>>>
>>> When putting things like these under the wheels jacking up just the
>>> wheel is the way to go. With a piece of wood on the floor jack for
>>> protection you can learn to lift under the lower control arm, front or
>>> rear, and slide the wood stand into place under the tire with a minimum
>>> of jacking. If you jack on the body you must raise the whole van quite a
>>> ways before the tire lifts high enough. No need to do this.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Felder wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking about lifting the vanagon rear end enough to lower the
>>>> motor--with a hoist hanging from a saw horse sitting over the back
>>>> hatch--and lowering it to the floor. Sounds like we're all doing the
>>>> same thing, just a bit differently. I have to get my motor from the
>>>> garage hoist to the car on a furniture dolly, so I have just figured
>>>> out how to lift the van high enough to accommodate the motor and the
>>>> dolly. The plywood with broomsticks is a good idea. If I had not had
>>>> to make a trip to a store for a bag of marbles, I was going to use
>>>> marbles. They would be omnidirectional--not that it matters once the
>>>> engine is off the ground.
>>>>
>>>> I did use a block and tackle so I could fore-and-aft the engine with
>>>> one hand while I used the hoist for up-and-down.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 5:56 PM, mdrillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree, lifting from above has too many advantages to go back to
>>>>> floor
>>>>> jacks. I built my first version to do it that way about 10 years ago
>>>>> and
>>>>> I still use it.
>>>>> I have 4 floor jacks and a tranny jack but for engine
>>>>> removal/installation the hoist method is preferred.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another thing I use is a piece of plywood about 2' x 4'. I put 2 holes
>>>>> near one short edge and put a rope handle into those holes. This is
>>>>> what I lower the engine down onto. Then I pull the wood with engine
>>>>> out
>>>>> from under the van with the rope handle. I put the engine back the
>>>>> same
>>>>> way but I use some broom stick pieces under the plywood to help roll
>>>>> the
>>>>> engine/plywood back into place. The end of the plywood with the rope
>>>>> should be as far from the engine as practical to help with sliding the
>>>>> wood. Lowering the engine onto any kind of cart requires the vehicle
>>>>> to
>>>>> be raised higher than just a piece of plywood does.
>>>>>
>>>>> My device is more like a sawhorse with room below it for a come-a-long
>>>>> type hoist. The added height is required for some Vanagon engines
>>>>> though
>>>>> not waterboxers. My sawhorse is made of square steel tubing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> The Westy man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Amaizing how little recognition that simple device I made, to take
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> istall the engine to make it a joy, received. And for me to read
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> double jacks and all kind of obvious struggles with platforms and
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> not,
>>>>>> is really a puzzle why most don't realized the simplicity without
>>>>>> lifting
>>>>>> the car both sides.
>>>>>> Well, we are not all the same, I guess. I went through my struggles
>>>>>> myself
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> Zoltan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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