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Date:         Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:11:02 -0700
Reply-To:     Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Are Today's Young People Mechanical Nitwits?
Comments: To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <4d1b79350808141143r3405b372v828b83f871821619@mail.gmail.com>
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"...had a Le Car"

Nitwitism was prevalent in the Le Car's heyday as well. A friend who owned one was complaining how the heater was not working in hers and embarked on a road trip during which the car overheated. Um...no water and therefore no heat? She could not be bothered to check it or let someone else do it. Just complained.

Stephen

--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> > Subject: Re: Are Today's Young People Mechanical Nitwits? > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 2:43 PM > They were 38hp if I remember correctly. And if you ever > revive your > desire for french motoring and want to hear the > city-horn-country-horn > sound again, let me know and I'll send you some of > those rare renault > lug nuts (if you had one you'll remember what I'm > talking about, > two-piece gadgets) and some bolt-in hubcaps in nice shape. > Probably > have some wheels under my dad's shop, too. > > When mine cracked a block, my dad welded up the crack with > some steel > strap and I put in a bunch of Barr's stop leak and > drove on. I don't > think we even pulled the engine to do it. Once the whole > drive train > fell out in the road an a friend of mine and I walked to a > house and > bummed a bunch of coat hangers from a woman and used them > to strap the > engine and transmission in to make it back to my house. > > I don't think my dauphine ever reached 70. I have owned > a total of > four of them, my first (first car) purchased for what I had > in my > pocket at the time: seventy-nine cents. I bought a pair for > $500 once. > > But YOU... YOU had a Le Car! Hahahahahah! > > Jim > > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > > oh you had a Duafine - I'm sorry ! > > lol. > > Caravelle- I even have a real Renault factory parts > book for a Carravelle, > > the sproty coupe version that generation of Renaults. > > ( I owned about 8 Renualt 16's .........a > 'real car' that. And some Le Cars > > too. ) > > > > I don't think washer fluid would hurt the coolant > even slightly. Be good > > for it almost. A tiny bit of detergent/cleaner is > fine I think. > > Daufine's can't actually sustain running at 70 > mph on a hot day with any > > kind of load without overheating. > > Very underbuilt for Western US conditions. > > Had a freind in Colorado with one - it really > couldn't do the freeway for > > long periods on a hot day. > > what are those, like 45 hp ? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim > Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> > > To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> > > Cc: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:19 AM > > Subject: Re: Are Today's Young People Mechanical > Nitwits? > > > > > >> Back when almost all gas stations were full serve, > I had an attendant > >> attempt to fill up the radiator of my Renault > Dauphine with gas. I had > >> another guy at an oil change place put washer > fluid in the coolant > >> overflow behind the license plate door on my > vanagon. Good thing I was > >> watching. Can you imagine the head corrosion? > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Scott Daniel - > Turbovans > >> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> you might also appreciate that when vanagons > first came out, > >>> a few gas station attendants flipped open the > license plate door at the > >>> back......... > >>> ( since many cars of the era had their gas cap > back there ) > >>> And when they saw a cap and filler neck, they > put gasoline into engine . > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "John Rodgers" > <inua@CHARTER.NET> > >>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:07 AM > >>> Subject: Re: Are Today's Young People > Mechanical Nitwits? > >>> > >>> > >>>> Congrats on your daughter's derring-do > in the mechanical world! > >>>> > >>>> I can't tell you how many times the > guys at the various auto > >>>> quick-service places have asked me where > the engine was in my van. > >>>> > >>>> I never ceased to be amazed. > >>>> > >>>> John Rodgers > >>>> 88 GL Driver > >>>> > >>>> Jim Arnott wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Warning!!! Proud papa alert.... and > NVC > >>>>> > >>>>> My eldest dau, 27, came home from > visiting friends the other night. > >>>>> Walks > >>>>> into the house and asks me, "Do > you ALWAYS get hurt when you're > >>>>> working on > >>>>> cars?" I respond that mechanical > things frequently demand blood > >>>>> sacrifice. > >>>>> She goes on to comment that when she > was putting the front suspension > >>>>> back > >>>>> together on her friend's Mitsu, > she pinched her hand. Did papa proud! > >>>>> > >>>>> Want to give your kids a clue? Make > their first car a Beetle. Give > >>>>> them a > >>>>> Muir Bible. Help them maintain it but > don't do it FOR them. Worked for > >>>>> me. > >>>>> > >>>>> So no, they're not all clueless. > But the vast majority are. Of the > >>>>> 20-30 > >>>>> kids that float through my home, there > are about three that could show > >>>>> me > >>>>> where to check the oil on their rig. > Those three could also change > >>>>> said > >>>>> oil. The rest? I'd have to show > them not just how, but THAT the hood > >>>>> opened. > >>>>> Id10ts. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jim > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > > > >


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